FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > if the salary cap was abolished
71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8224No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2012Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7741_1339451243.jpg
When you're a Bradford fan there's always a light at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately it's usually an oncoming train:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7741.jpg



Quote: sally cinnamon " The biggest player you could sign would probably be say Wigan signing Chris Ashton back '"


Exactly. Union are having the same trouble that League is having ie loads of good forwards but very little class in the way of backs. Why else are Union clubs poaching League backs? It's because they're having trouble developing their own. So instead of going looking for big names to throw cash at, why not pump that money into something more long term worthwhile?

Say several national Academy of Excellence style structures to help nurture and develop a bigger player pool?

Clubs want to spend more money on players. That's fine if there's enough quality to go round. But at the moment in this country there isn't.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16269
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10289_1326111229.png
Challenge Cup winners 2009 2010 2012 2019 League Leaders 2011 2016:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10289.png



Quote: Roofaldo "
Clubs want to spend more money on players. That's fine if there's enough quality to go round. But at the moment in this country there isn't.'"


Exactly. Just because players get paid more doesn't make them better.

I remember when Kevin Penny came through there were RU clubs after him and Warrington gave him a good deal to keep him in rugby league. You can bet if we hadn't come up with the goods to keep him everyone would have been saying it was a crying shame for the game to lose possibly the greatest talent since Offiah to have come out of rugby league, and that the money spent bringing a 30 odd year old Chris Hicks would have been better invested in Penny.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach252No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2012Dec 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38249_1323016599.jpg
Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal Tottenham 3-1 QPR Fulham 3-1 Tottenham Bring on Chelsea!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_38249.jpg



I think Manchester City show why salary caps are needed

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1466No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Jun 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40493_1265331809.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40493.jpg



I like to think of it like F1. If the cars werent restricted by rules then Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull would be even more dominant than they already are as their money, which already funds far superior development anyway, would put them miles in front of all the other cars on the grid because they financially cannot keep up and require the help of the restrictions to stay moderately competitive.

For example:
British GP 2011
Gap between 1st and 19th (lowest placed finisher after retirements) 3 laps
British GP 1992 (some restrictions in place but not to the level of now) 1st and 16th gap was 4 laps

Now I know that might not sound a lot but 1 lap is HUGE in F1 so to have made it that much more competitive is exactly what the FIA are after.

And this is what the RFL are after but these things take time. Once the lower teams start to learn from the higher, richer teams how to develop cars/players depending on the sport then the sport will become closer.

I think the next step forward is to restrict the number of outside players allowed in a team not just foreign players for example I will use Wigan vs Wire (only other team I know about really)
Using the teams used in the last game between the 2 last season:

Warrington:
Riley -Academy
J Monaghan,- Overseas
Bridge - Bradford
Atkins - Wakefield
King - Overseas
Briers - Saints
Myler - Widnes
Morley - Lets just say elsewhere
M Monaghan - Overseas
Carvell - Again just elsewhere
Anderson - Overseas
Grix - Halifax
Cooper - Academy

Replacements:
Harrison - Academy
Clarke - Wigan
Mitchell - Academy
Blythe - Academy

Just 4 players that were grown by Wire themselves. However I think if they are there as long as Briers and Clarke was then maybe they should be allowed to be counted in the academy figure.

Wigan:
S Tomkins - Academy
Charnley - Academy
J Tomkins - Academy
Carmont - Overseas
Richards -Overseas
Deacon - Bradford
Finch - Oversea
Coley - Salford
Leuluai - Overseas/Quins
Lima - Overseas
Hansen - Overseas BUT our academy trained. There are arguments over this but if Man Utd bring a Welshman through their academy is he not Man Utd Academy trained? (Giggs icon_wink.gif )
Hoffman - Overseas
O'Loughlin - Academy

Replacements:
McIlorum - Academy
Prescott - Academy
Farrell - Academy
Hock - Academy


The reason, like I stated above, I chose Wire was because I know a little about their team and alot more compared to others in the league, for example picking on Hull or Hudds wouldve been better but wouldve required more research haha.

Anyway the point is that the sport requires time to develop Wigan have developed that team over many years Wire are only just now starting to build a team based on their own talent which is why they must buy in so many other players because their own are simply not ready yet or they simply havent learnt enough yet on running their academy/scouting in the same way Wigan can.

I know for a fact that my brothers friend is in the current crop of Wire youngsters (17 atm) and hes going to be a good player and theres better because I've seen it. Not meaning to compliment another team but Wire have big times ahead in their forwards if they nurture these guys properly. Wigan have known how to do this for years, as has Leeds and Saints and its the rest of the leagues time to start catch up and for me limiting the number of non-academy players in a team (in a 25 man squad) would be the best step to take rather than a salary cap. I think the salary cap should only be a last resort. Imagine a league where noone ever lost players to union or NRL. Imagine a league where Saints still had Graham and Eastmond. Wigan still had Ashton and the other youngsters from a couple years back like Thornley.

The kids are the future. NOT the salary cap.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5750No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7349_1382076828.jpeg
CHAMP20NS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7349.jpeg



Quote: barton baird "So what you are saying is you would like to see a similar scenario as the Premiership,or Scottish Premiership where a few elite clubs battle it out amongst themselves,leaving the rest to pick up the crumbs?'"


Yes.

Other clubs have had long enough to sort themselves out finacially. If others clubs bring more money in then they should be entitled to spend more.

71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.10302734375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
24m
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
177
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
18s
Film game
karetaker
5639
24s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
52s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
4m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
5m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
7m
New Players
BigTime
137
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
478
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
532
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1275
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1396
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165