Well done Leeds & Cas then.

Wigan and KR are a disgrace, but nothing new there.

Not the case at all, mariano was claerly ready for first team but you never played him.

He played 4 games then got injured. I don't blame him for taking the money at Wakefield when you've got to put a roof over your young families head.

Especially when he is at one of the worst team for given home grown talent a chance eh?

actually not true if you are talking about home grown talent produced by the club rather than englishmen bought in from all over the league. whilst everyone will agree we have too many foreigners in the squad they have not come at the expense of our own produced players we have more locals in our squad than a number of superleague clubs with 17 hull lads in the squad this year, welham, cox, taylor, latus are already becoming or have become regulars with sheriff and others following. Surely this is the way to go in the future and what the club trained rule is all about rather than buying a team from all over the place whether that be australia or other parts of britain.

just a thought, maybe we should have a thread on number of local players in squads, I would imagine teams like warrington and hull might struggle with this one.

in the same way as you are counting, i would be very surprised if every club wasnt easily beating that level, frankly it is poor. Cox and Latus and Sheriffe have barely played, they are nowhere near first team regulars.

A basic question needed a basic answer, so why has it plummited in to a discussion about whats right and wrong with clubs...etc.

McDonnell, Webster, Green, Dobson, O'Hara, Withers, Clinton, Galea, Paea, Mika, Lovegrove.

I'd argue we could have done without McDonnell by using Sheriff or Hall at full back, our pack maybe could have survived without Paea and Mika and we did pretty well without Clinton last year so I'm sure Wheeldon could have covered there.

So sure we possibly could have done without a few of those and I'd be disapointed if we don't replace Webster with Liam Salter or Chris Heil, McDonnell with Sheriff...etc. Taylor has shown he's got the ability and a future in the front row as with Cox with a few years of development still to go could be a great front row of the future. keil Carlisle also looks promising along with Josh Hodgson.

Sandercock was brought in with the directive of improving the players coming through our own system so with so many players off contract at the end of 2012 it may be a slightly different story next year.

As said though while we're not doing anything wrong why should we be bothered about the international game, being English is not even an issue anyway!

Are Saints and Hull FC also not a disgrace? Same number of overseas players as Wigan in 2012 (seven)

Maybe they are, Maybe they aren't. Someone should produce a table showing who has what in terms of locally born players as well as overseas players

I was a little suprised at how high our (Saints) figure was.
Meli & Flanders are exempt from quota because they signed before the legislation, and I don't think either of them will see 2013 with us. They will obviously have to be replaced by English players.

I was too to be honest. It's the same for us with Carmont, Richards and Leuluai. Think this will definitely be Carmont's last year (surely he'll actually retire this time!) and Leuluai and Finch are both out of contract at the end of the season too so I imagine our quota will come down. I hope we can persuade Leuluai to stay on but I think he fancies a crack at the NRL