Do we need to challenge him? has he ever claimed he's the best prop in the league or the hardest, fastest, strongest?
No, he just gets on with his game quietly winning 5 SL medals, a WCC medal, 2 league leaders medals and now a well earned international call up in the process.

You do realise that all this TMFMISL started as a joke on Southstander don't you? ****wits like yourself totally fell for it and now dig yourselves deeper every single day by posting pages of drivel about him.

I'm sure TMFMISL finds it all hilarious, i know i do.

Classic Bailey.

I note how your opinion is based entirely on your prejudices and Baileys reputation rather than on his form or playing ability.

The cap doesn't even come into it. Dowes, Mossop and Coley are all decidedly average and personally I'd not want any of them at Leeds. I'll let you know how Griffin and Bailey compare next year (but I'd not put money on Bailey not being in Leeds first choice 17 next year even with our excess of props).

Lynch I think is unlucky to have missed out but I suspect Bailey was picked ahead of him to give some variety in the props in the squad. I'd also add that any Leeds fan will tell you that Bailey's form over the last few months has been the best in years (he's vastly improved going forward whilst remaining one of the best defensive props in the league) so can we blame McNamara for picking an inform player.

Don't tell them that - they think it's us arrogant whino fans bigging him up

I was referring to playing stats; do the player comparisons on the Super League site. Bailey's are massively inferior - or are they prejudiced.



Mossop and Coley may be "decidedly average" in your opinion but their stats are vastly superior to Bailey's - what does that make Bailey? Dowes was selected because he is what people think of as "decidedly average" and his stats are very similar to Baileys, minus the penalties of course.



The only variety Bailey brings compared to the other props in the squad is that they are talented players and he isn't. I will grant that Bailey has been in his best form recently, the only problem is that it is still way short of international standard.

I'm outraged that nobody has asked Tony Smith, Brian Mclennan, Brian McDermott why they kept picking him for Leeds, or Noble previously for GB. Nobody has answered how this cowardly, ineffective, non-yard-making, non-offloading lion has managed 250 appearances for Leeds under a range of coaches, or international selection now under two coaches, if he is so poor.

Seriously, as far as I'm aware, nobody is suggesting Bailey is as good as Peacock, Morley or Graham. I don't think anybody is suggesting he should be in the first-choice 17. But as a bench prop, perhaps 5th choice? Starting from the bench is very different from being the Peacock/Graham starting prop. The whole role is based around being solid whilst your main men take a breather.

Sorry but given the performances of the likes of Hull, Huddersfield and even Wigan in the last few weeks of the season (i.e. when it really counts), its hard to argue with his selection in that role if you're going to pick players on form.

BTW, anybody who picks a team based on stats alone is an idiot (particularly an issue for props' yardage which should exclude kick-off returns if you want to levelise numbers, and should be based on minutes played as well if you really want like-forlike comparisons).

Exactly, which raises the question why he is classed as an international. For me a Prop makes hard yards, big hits, off loads in 2-3 men tackles, carries the ball up in heavy traffic, Bailey does none of these. The form he has is getting under the skin of the opposition, then hides away when the going gets rough, with the exception of the smaller players.
Peacock, Morley, Graham, Carvell, Wood, Huby, Lynch, Coley are no nonsense props, it's difficult to place Bailey in the top 10, His selection must be on the basis that he is on form as a wind up merchant, which raises the question - is he really a Rugby Player, take away his niggly game........ He is NOTHING.

Can't say I'm a fan of either player tbh and neither would be in my England 17.

Even if Bailey did what is alleged then why did Wilkin see fit to run to the media?

Bailey has got to be the worst player with the most winners medals ever.

Actually, I think quite the reverse... take away his niggly game and you could have a good prop

He is big enough and mobile enough. In the last few months of the season he hit some decent form, beating more men than before and came up with some quality offloads too

I don’t like the guy one bit but he actually isn’t a bad player

Your still bitter from when TMFMISL sat Mozza down at HQ a couple of years back.
Mozza, along with several others, is still having great difficulty in seeking revenge.
Classic Bailey.

I'm a firm believer that what happens between the players on the pitch should stay on the pitch. Wilkin has a history of running to the press, he really is a snivelling little turd.