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| That's wild altogether, for someone untested in union whowasn't even fully developed in league to go into the top bracket of Premiership rugby earners seems a bit far fetched. Unless union really does have a few screws loose.
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| £400k is approx 10% of the Union salary cap. They wont be paying that to an lad who has never played the game in his life.
Ashton was on about £140k from what I hear - which seems a more reasonable amount for Joel Tomkins, that Wigan *should* be able to compete with.
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| Quote EHW="EHW"£400k is approx 10% of the Union salary cap. They wont be paying that to an lad who has never played the game in his life.
Ashton was on about £140k from what I hear - which seems a more reasonable amount for Joel Tomkins, that Wigan *should* be able to compete with.'"
But Ashton was only on 12k at Wigan when he left, so the difference was huge.
From the figures being banded about, Joel may well be on 80k at Wigan so you'd expect the RU buggers to have to throw more money at him to persuade him over to the dark side.
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| its not just about wages from the club and the RFU its about the money he can earn from sponsors and other avenues.
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"But Ashton was only on 12k at Wigan when he left, so the difference was huge.
From the figures being banded about, Joel may well be on 80k at Wigan so you'd expect the RU buggers to have to throw more money at him to persuade him over to the dark side.'"
There is no way Ashton was on £12k when he was at Wigan.
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| Quote Ashulster="Ashulster"That's wild altogether, for someone untested in union whowasn't even fully developed in league to go into the top bracket of Premiership rugby earners seems a bit far fetched. Unless union really does have a few screws loose.'"
We all know he'll be in the England yawnion squad before he's even played 5 games too.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"There is no way Ashton was on £12k when he was at Wigan.'"
There is.
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"We all know he'll be in the England yawnion squad before he's even played 5 games too.'" That long?
Willie Mason played for the Baa,Baa's BEFORE he played for his club side.
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| Can't we just pick 15 guys to go play on their England side so they will leave us alone for a while.
I feel it's like when you turn up with a team and the other side has one less. You feel obliged to lend them one because they aren't a big enough team to compete.
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| Quote EHW="EHW"£400k is approx 10% of the Union salary cap. They wont be paying that to an lad who has never played the game in his life.
Ashton was on about £140k from what I hear - which seems a more reasonable amount for Joel Tomkins, that Wigan *should* be able to compete with.'"
The league cap is what, 1.4 million? The figure being bounded about is 400k a season for Joel. Now even if it was half that, there is no way any Super Duper League team can spend 200k on one player with the limitations imposed by the salary cap.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"There is no way Ashton was on £12k when he was at Wigan.'"
He was still on a youth contract. There were offers on the table from Wigan and Northampton and, with the RFU's help, Northampton blew the Wigan offer right out of the water. You have to balance out a player's value with how much of your cap space you're willing to give up to keep them. Nobody in RL thinks that Joel Tomkins is worth a full quarter of your salary cap. No player is. If it was a level playing field financially I don't think there'd be any debate about what Joel would do, but it isn't
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