Minor premiers, I presume.

You should see his match report from Saturday's game. He blamed Wigan's tiredness and Stuart Fielden being injured as big factors as to why Wigan lost. Nothing to do with the fact Saints just simply outplayed Wigan on the day after doing the same thing 2 weeks earlier, despite having 6 players missing - Pryce, Gardner, Perry, Flannery, Magennis and Eastmond - 5 who were definite first choice players at the start of the season.

The fact is, Saints and Leeds rose to the challenge in the Play Offs, whilst Warrington and Wigan didn't have the bottle and the quality to qualify for the final. Less of the excuses, accept it and aim to rise to it next season.

Saturdays grand final will contain more homegrown english players than any other grand final in super league.

Vindication, if ever, for the way saints and leeds go about their business. It's great for the game!

So screw the doubters and the haters. Saints, as well as leeds conduct themselves with integrity, they play the game in the right way and they blood their youngsters, who normally turn out to be pretty damn good.

It's a fitting final for 2 great clubs that have shown the true qualities of champions.

Do you genuinely think it's better to finish 5th just too be called an underdog?

How many times has a team outside the top 2 won a gf, once iirc

No team in their right mind would finish lower down on purpose. I don't even know why I dignify the suggestion with a response. Teams will aim to finish as high as possible. It just feell nicely for leeds that huddersfield lost form and hull were gash, but leeds can't control that, that's just circumstances falling their way.

They could just as easily have been playing a bloody tough cas team at home, and if they got through that a tough trip to france. Only outside results at the end prevented that.

We wouldn't even be discussing this, but for leeds and saints showing just how bloody good they are at making grand finals.

They just get the job done, whether in 1st position, or in this case 3rd and 5th.