would definitley not have that 3 quarter line together. Briscoe is not the best winger, might stick charnley on one wing but centres we have been weak in them for years. heres another thrown in at half back is Jonny Lomax worth a shout been quite good all year?

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions but for the life of me I cannot see why anybody would choose Charnley in front of Briscoe for a wing spot

Charnley is not a bad player at all and better than some we have had on the wings for England/GB in recent times but Briscoe is bigger, stronger and faster than Charnley. For me is defensively sounder, able to bring the ball away from his own line and score tries that other wingers wouldn’t come close to either near the line or 90 metres out. Plus, he seems to be have been around forever and still only 21

Lomax, I fully agree with - top class player

I know, absolute nonsense.

If SL teams are targetting Tomkins/Charnley as a weak link, I dread to think what Australia/NZ would do to them.

I'm with my fellow Reds fan, regarding Gibson anyway, he's been absolutely terrible this season. We'd have been better signing an actual revolving door, rather than the proverbial. When I see his name on the teamsheet, you just know his side will leak tries.

As for Broughton, going forward, he's better than all those mentioned on this thread. One problem, if he was put in the England side, the Aussie's would destroy him! Danny Williams though, how Hull KR let him slip through their fingers is beyond me, I mentioned this previously, he's already used to defending a broken line and generally makes the right plays, both in attack and defence. With time he should get an England shirt.

Broughton wasn't full time at Hull & Leeds.. IIRC he wanted to finish his degree and was still working part time.... Salford then offered him a full time professional contract where he has been excellent... One player i wouldn't have minded keeping in all honesty but with the emergence of Tom Briscoe he wasn't such a viable option.. V.Good player though IMHO.

Arundel/Owen

1. S Tomkins
2. T Briscoe
3. Yeaman
4. Reed/ Bishop
5. Charnley
6. Widdop/Lomax
7. Brough

They're not the weak link, Deacon is. Teams would much rather take on Deacon/Hansen/Tomkins/Charnley than Finch/Hoffman/Carmont/Richards.

did you even read the rest of my post?

i've gone with club partnerships,charnley-tomkins & briscoe-yeaman because they happen to be the best all english pairings we have...

why keep sticking failed pairings together? when we have 2 successful pairing playing together week in week out

is sticking jack reed/atkins/bridge/shenton with charnley or briscoe gonna be more effective,in attack & defence, than pairing them with the they've played with all year....no it ain't!


lomax is defo worth a shout though

Tomkins is not a Test grade Centre.
He will be targeted and be found wanting badly.

He's still better than Shenton at centre though.