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| Quote: Bethman "I think it would almost send the wrong message to the squad if Reed is selected ahead of someone like Yeaman who has proved his worth in Super League over a period of time. I'm sure nobody would argue that the NRL isn't the stronger competition but selecting players purely because they are doing a decent job in the NRL would suggest to the squad that all of their opposites are better players as they play in a stronger league. This is far from the truth I'd suggest all of the England team would be at the very least solid and in most case good NRL players, if Reed is being selected because his form is better than his SL counterparts then fair enough but I'm not sure thats the case.'"
What has the competition a player competes in got to do with whether he gets selected as long as it is of a comparable standard or better. I don't care how long a player has spent "proving" himself, if he's rubbish, he's rubbish and shouldn't be playing for the national side. Reed is a better player, in a better league than any of the other centre options available to the England selectors.
We need to get the rose tinted glasses off in some cases. The SL competition is a second rate product, it lacks competitive teams, has too many non even games, too many second rate/past it overseas players. The general standard of British player is declining. If you need evidence look at the current England team being beaten by a team of SL overseas players containing ONE current international and having a 37 year old playing in it and an average age of 30. We are falling further and further behind the southern hemisphere in RL terms and will continue to while the RFL pursues its current policies.
Reed for England, with him and Widdop we would at least have 2 quality backs.
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| Quote: nkpom "Dale Copley. He had an awful first half; headbutting the ball out of Jack Reed's hands when he was over the line and about to score, and then dropping the ball 10 meters from his own line a minute later to give away a try!.'" That [iis[/i a bad half.
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Quote: Shoe Shine Johnny "Can you show me anything that Kirk Yeaman has done this year that is better than this?
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This was against the NRL Minor Premiers. To say that he shouldn't be in contention for the centre spot is ridiculous.'"
that try owes itself to bad ridiculously bad defending,from the minor premiers no less, that awesome play,as i've stated before that melbourne winger actually runs away from reed as he nears the tryline
and one of kirk yeamans...at least here he actually hands people off
www.youtube.com/watch?v=twXRrRZT ... age#t=271s
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Quote: Shoe Shine Johnny "Can you show me anything that Kirk Yeaman has done this year that is better than this?
rlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v
This was against the NRL Minor Premiers. To say that he shouldn't be in contention for the centre spot is ridiculous.'"
that try owes itself to bad ridiculously bad defending,from the minor premiers no less, that awesome play,as i've stated before that melbourne winger actually runs away from reed as he nears the tryline
and one of kirk yeamans...at least here he actually hands people off
www.youtube.com/watch?v=twXRrRZT ... age#t=271s
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| Quote: roughyedspud "that try owes itself to bad ridiculously bad defending,from the minor premiers no less, that awesome Centre play,as i've stated before that melbourne winger actually runs away from reed as he nears the tryline
Yeah those two clips, and defences, were quite comparable. You are making yourself look a little foolish here. Reed is declared for England he is amongst the top 4-5 centres available for selection. He will train with the squad and maybe get a game against the French.
You don't agree with the selection - that is fine. But to infer he isn't in the top 4-5 English qualified centres on current form is laughable.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
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WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
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Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
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CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
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| Quote: Shoe Shine Johnny "Yeah those two clips, and defences, were quite comparable.
oh right....so yeamans try is a "freakish solo effort" too then? if the defences are comparable? it most be freakish...no?
and no....saying he's worthy of selection just cos he plays in the NRL is laughable
i really do want him picked against france...then you'll all see ordinary he is....and without gus gould blowing him just cos he made a simple pass
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| Quote: roughyedspud "no....saying he's worthy of selection just cos he plays in the NRL is laughable
i really do want him picked against france...then you'll all see ordinary he is....and without gus gould blowing him just cos he made a simple pass
Who is saying that? Not me. I have watched all the NRL games on Premier Sports and Reed has been very strong. Have you been watching the NRL this year?
Along with Yeaman, Atkins, Bridge and Tomkins he is in the top 5 centres we have available. He should be in the squad on form along with those others. There is nothing else too it. If he gets found out in the French game fine - his place should be under threat. We are talking about a National side who has had Leroy Cudjoe and Tony Clubb in the centres within the last 12 months!
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