Quote: SmokeyTA "Then you clearly dont understand 'the momentum rule' probably because it doesnt exist. Its clear you dont understand the reasons why the VR isnt used for forward passes and its clear you dont understand the affect of momentum on the forward pass rule, but you still persist in arguing that a pass described by the media as [iThe Lee Mossop pass that gave Lima the momentum for his second try was clearly forward, [/iwasnt. Why?'"
Actually, I said it was one of the most borderline examples of a forward pass I'd seen and that given video footage is unreliable it's somewhat silly of you to form an opinion that you are 100% certain of using video footage as a basis. But hey, if the media say it was forward it must be.
Quote: SmokeyTA "You are embarrasing yourself here. You would have to be an absolute moron to be arguing that an incorrect forward pass decision that was the final pass ten yars out and leading to a try wasnt affected by the referee's decision, '"
Is the froth from your mouth dripping onto your keyboard or something? I assume that you're trying to say the forward pass affected the try and are just having a communication melt-down. If that's the case then I disagree, the pass was so borderline that the try would have been scored either way. Of course it's conjecture from both of us but I'm sure you'll insist you are factually 100% correct as indicated by your crystal ball (which, incidentally, I've hear they still use as a means of local authority governance round your way). My opinion, however, is based on the way Lima simply swatted opposition players away with ease when they really had a very good opportunity to tackle him. Nothing to do with the pass, just very poor tackling.
Quote: SmokeyTA "but that an (possible) incorrect play the ball (what criteria for a play the ball do you think Ablett didnt meet? he certainly regained his feet, he puts the ball down and rolls it back and makes an attempt to touch the ball with his foot) 2 tackles before a try on the other side of the field is [ia clear case of an incorrect call affecting the game[/i. Oh thats what you have done!'"
He was horizontal, placed the ball on the ground and leap-frogged it. It wasn't a correct PTB by any definition. You know the difference between RL and RU don't you?
Quote: SmokeyTA "It was wrong, im really not sure what else you want me to say. This was a situation described by the media as [ithe kick that led directly to Leuluai's clincher equally clearly went into touch off the legs of Charnley, rather than the body of Rob Burrow.[/i.'"
Oh the media said did they? Well, perhaps if you weren't so unfamiliar with Rugby League you could rely on your own knowledge and not the media. Here's a helpful pointer
9 Touch & Touch InGoal
7. In all aspects of general play, a player who does not deliberately play at the ball (eg. ricochet or rebound) will not be disadvantaged by a consequent restart of play when the ball has gone dead or into touch.[/i
Quote: SmokeyTA "Yes, but 'squad numbers' would be the ones outside the first 17. When Danny Mcguire wears the number 9 shirt, or Danny Buderus wears a number 6 let me know and you wont look quite so stupid. However i expect Danny Mcguire will wear the number 9 shirt in the same game Ryan Bailey wears the number 1 and Shergar is interchanging at 8 with Lord Lucan.'"
Ha ha, you really are putting a lot of effort into this sidetracking attempt aren't you? But just to put this to bed once and for all, what position did Tommy L play on Sat and what number did he have on his back? Now I predict that you'll either a) answer correctly and demonstrate my point quite nicely, or b) ignore the question which would indicate, using your own logic, that you have no Rugby League knowledge. So which is it?