This is bizarre..i actually dreamt of this thread last night.....very surreal. I said in my dream that i didn't agree with Crusaders in SL but i wished all fans to stick with them and rebuild the right way......

some may take this post with 'yeah right you dreamed that'...but bizarally i did.

Anyway the sentiment in my dream stands

I believe you, man. I believe you.

So the RFL approached a ' crook ' and asked him if he wanted a SL club ?

Maybe they should have done their homework first

A sound base upon which to build a super league franchise then. How wrong we all were to doubt such a venture.

Great opening post. Some of my favourite memories of the last three years of SL have involved Crusaders, and it won't feel the same without hearing the Cru-Cru-Crusaders to chant along to during TV games. It was brilliant when they went over to the Galpharm and outsung the Giant fans.

I am sad for their fans and for the players. I hope the fans to get a chance to support a team in the Championship, there's no shame in being in that division.

Great post. Send it on to Red Hall. Seriously....

My abiding memory of the Crusaders was the small knot of Welsh fans who stood on the rain soaked terraces at Odsal as they pipped my team, the Bradford Bulls, to gain their first win. I was honestly pleased to see their joy, even though I was gutted with the defeat.

That, and the big mob of Crusaders fans at the Galpharm for the play off match

You lot deserve far better than the hand you've been dealt

No, you know full well that's not what happened at all. With hindsight it's easy to say that they should have done more research, but at the time everything checked out, he had invested heavily and the club had grown at an incredible rate under him. The fact that he acted the way he did when the club got to Super League isn't the fault of the RFL, the same thing could just as easily happen to Widnes next year, or any of the other clubs that are funded by wealthy backers. It's impossible to tell what the future holds.

No, don't bother.

I doubt anyone there gives monkeys to be honest.

It depends who version of events you believe ? , Mr Samuels stated the RFL approached him , and if you asked the Bridgend locals what they thought of Mr Samuels in his 2 nd year of NL RL they were not shy in giving their opinion , those of course who even knew they had a RL team playing 400 yards away at Brewery Field

In their one season in the Championship Crusaders had a higher average attendance than Leigh.

1 they never played in the Championship , and yes they might have done , I went down to Brewery field , it was interesting to see 2 coach loads of German tourists and a few hundred squaddies in the stand watching the game

And the relevance if your post is what ?