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| The video ref just gives his OPINION on what he sees. Sometimes his OPINION is different than yours (and mine) but he's the one employed to give his OPINION, so his is the one that counts. You think his OPINION is wrong and he thinks yours (and sometimes mine) is. I've watched loads of games in the pub with neutral fans and sometimes OPINION is divided 50/50 on whether a try should be given. Having a video ref doesn't give certainty; it just gives another person a chance to look at things with the benefit of replays. He still then has to give an OPINION on what he sees.
The whole concept of 'Benefit of the Doubt' is not helpful in my view when it comes to deciding if a try should be awarded. Simply because it seems to mean different things to different people. For example, it would seem some people's view is that if you can't be 'sure the ball didn't hit the ground' a try should be awarded on the basis of 'benefit of the doubt'. Other people have said to me 'benefit of the doubt' only comes into it if it's a 50/50 call. In other words, if the video ref thinks the chances are that the ball PROBABLY wasn't grounded (say a 70/30 chance against) then no try should be awarded. A couple of years ago in a televised game, the video ref awarded a try to Featherstone's Iestyn Harris because he couldn't see the ball as Harris reached the line surrounded by tacklers. Given Harris's body position, I reckon the chances of Harris having grounded the ball were about 99/1 against (and maybe the video ref did too?!) but he gave the try, presumably because he couldn't be 'sure' the ball wasn't grounded. Was he correct?
Why don't we just say the video ref will give his best judgement based on the evidence before him using his knowledge and experience of watching/reffing/playing rugby league. That's all we ask the on-field ref to do and it's all we can expect of the vid ref. And if it's an absolute 50/50 call in his OPINION (which should be a real rarity) then he'll just have to award the try (personally I'd prefer the defence to be rewarded with a 'no try' actually), or maybe he should hand it back to the on-field ref to give whatever decision he would have given had there been no vid ref there. At no point do I want to see the words 'Benefit Of The Doubt' displayed on the big screen because it's too woolly a concept.
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| Should have been a penalty to Wigan. Only five Cas men in scrum.
Nevermind, justiced prevailed anyway.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Should have been a penalty to Wigan. Only five Cas men in scrum.
Nevermind, justiced prevailed anyway.'"
Cheats.
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| The image is on Twitter. Surprised it isn't on here already.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"The image is on Twitter. Surprised it isn't on here already.'"
Which image? The Cas five man scrum?
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| Quote Fully="Fully"The image is on Twitter. Surprised it isn't on here already.'"
Try the Cas board.
It proves nothing. Unless Tuson's leg has magically vanished from below the knee, of course.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Try the Cas board.
It proves nothing. Unless Tuson's leg has magically vanished from below the knee, of course.'"
No, I'm a Cas fan who believes it isn't a true. IMO, you can clearly see the leg of Tuson and there's a good two inches between the ball and the ground.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"No, I'm a Cas fan who believes it isn't a true. IMO, you can clearly see the leg of Tuson and there's a good two inches between the ball and the ground.'"
Fair enough. 
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| Quote DannyT="DannyT"Never liked the 'benefit of the doubt' award of a try. I might be old fashioned but the aim of the game is to score a try by earning it, not by being given it as a cop out 'just in case' the ball was down. Good defence deserves to be rewarded and if the officials can't see it, get up, walk back 10m and get back on with the game.'"
Couldn't agree more
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