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When I started playing amateur rugby in hull there were 4 divisions on a saturday afternoon and 2 divisions on a sunday morning. Approximately 80 to 90 teams. Next season ther will be 20 teams playing spread over 2 small divisions. There is no grass root development or investment of any sort going on and I can only see it getting worse.

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Concerning the funding I believe the RFL committed to increasing participation, no sport has seen a bigger drop consistently as RL (though the decline is slowing down now) you could argue A 52% reduction in active participation resulting in a 4% reduction in funding is very favourable.'"


but is that because there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the baseline data as almost every sport has seen very big drops over the same period? I looked at the data last week (pure curiosity) and it seemed bizarre that lots of sports had seen big drops reasonably similar in % terms - if I saw data like that in my work, without being able to investigate, i'd suspect a data error.

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Quote: "but is that because there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the baseline data as almost every sport has seen very big drops over the same period? I looked at the data last week (pure curiosity) and it seemed bizarre that lots of sports had seen big drops reasonably similar in % terms - if I saw data like that in my work, without being able to investigate, i'd suspect a data error.'"


Not sure about your source of data here is the data for the SE APS over the same period.

Swimming -7%, Football no change, Athletics +21%, Cycling +4%, Golf -9%,Badminton -5%, Tennis -17%, Equestrian -2%, Squash/Racketball -2%, Bowls -18%, Crciket -4%, Rugby Union -26%, Basketball -17%,Netball +18%, Boxing +12%, Table Tennis +52%, Mountaineering +29%, Snowsports -13%, Hockey -13%, Sailing -22%, Weightlifting -43%, Canoeing +15%, Gymnastics -20%, Volleyball -16%, Rowing -31%, Taekwondo +12, Rounders -7% Judo +11, Fencing -35%.

In terms of active participation over the same period rugby league has gone from 19th to 28th the biggest drop by any sport. This and the above figures clearly show, (discounting bowls) out of the top 10 sports only 1 had decrease of 10% or more. Only weightlifting suffered reduction anything like RL has reported.

Traditional summer sports sports that do not involve much expense seem to fair best but there is not a clear pattern. Since the figures vary so widely SE figures do not sound dubious but the previous figures of certain sports certainly look doubtful.

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Quote: Thoth "Not sure about your source of data here is the data for the SE APS over the same period.

Swimming -7%, Football no change, Athletics +21%, Cycling +4%, Golf -9%,Badminton -5%, Tennis -17%, Equestrian -2%, Squash/Racketball -2%, Bowls -18%, Crciket -4%, Rugby Union -26%, Basketball -17%,Netball +18%, Boxing +12%, Table Tennis +52%, Mountaineering +29%, Snowsports -13%, Hockey -13%, Sailing -22%, Weightlifting -43%, Canoeing +15%, Gymnastics -20%, Volleyball -16%, Rowing -31%, Taekwondo +12, Rounders -7% Judo +11, Fencing -35%.

In terms of active participation over the same period rugby league has gone from 19th to 28th the biggest drop by any sport. This and the above figures clearly show, (discounting bowls) out of the top 10 sports only 1 had decrease of 10% or more. Only weightlifting suffered reduction anything like RL has reported.

Traditional summer sports sports that do not involve much expense seem to fair best but there is not a clear pattern. Since the figures vary so widely SE figures do not sound dubious but the previous figures of certain sports certainly look doubtful.'"


will have to go back and look, just remember thinking it strange at the time that there seemed to be a group of what i'd call more prominant sports (RL one, looks like RU and also tennis) that had drops that i couldn't think of an obvious explanation for. as i say, was looking at them out of curiosity rather than reading too much into it.

when you say 'previous' figures - did the sports provide a figure for their own baseline position or is the methodology for the above figures the same for every year?

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Quote: Saddened! "Should this decision not be taken as a vote of no confidence from Sports England in the RFL? Richard Lewis is nothing but a salary taking nodding dog, he contributes nothing. We've failed to meet participation targets resulting in the sport losing £1m in funding, he has presided over a farcical round of franchise applications which will see the league just as weak as it ever was and has delivered a TV deal that is lower than the one signed in 1995 when you factor in inflation. The referees in place are also absolutely horrific.

The international game is still a farce, we still aren't showing any signs of being competitive internationally and all the expansion franchises (Bar Catalans) have been utter failures.

Yet people still say he's good for the game? Convince me.'"
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