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| Quote: Odemwingie "The squad at the end of the year will be much different though.
Brough will no doubt replace Myler who is a good support player but rubbish at this level, even wire fans can see that. Brough has an awesome kicking game and will control the play as well as being creative.
Roby will play instead of McIlorum. McIlorum does the job and will never let anyone down but he is not ready for this level YET. Roby is one of the top hookers in the world and is always superb at international level.
Burgess and Ellis will play. An argument could be made that these are Englands two best players, they play with the worlds best week in week out and are now two of the best back rowers in the NRL while Burgess can also play prop.
Widdop will probably play at 6 or FB... he should play 6 IMO. He has looked quality for Melbourne this year, he could easily hide behind Cronk, Slater and Smith but he never does.
Adding these 5 players to that starting 13 improves the team by a long way IMO.
Finally you also have Hock who will no doubt put his hand up with the amount of talent he has... maybe if we are lucky he has found half a brain cell in his two years out. You also have Crabtree who didn't play in this game and has always performed for England.
On an extra note I thought Joel Tomkins had a good game and has looked awesome for Wigan at centre IMO. He should be in contention there, he reads the game well and has loads of pace for a big guy, nobody got near him. Shenton looked like he was running in treacle.
After these players have been added we could end up with something like this....
Tomkins
Hall
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Shenton/J Tomkins/Bridge
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Morley
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Lockers
Westwood - Englands MOM made for internationals.
Robinson
Both should be on the bench IMO they deserve it. Then we have a list of players in the running for the final bench spot after Crabtree who also deserves it.
Mossop
Hock
Griffin
LMS
J Tomkins - if he doesn't make the centre position.
Players like Myler, Sinfield and Wilkin should not be in the team. Sinfield could play 9 if needed but not if we are at full strength.'"
Wilkin was one of the best players on the pitch
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| Quote: Ashy "There is a lot of potential in the playing staff but no one to give them the elite coaching they need. '"
Where was this talent in the last World Cup under Tony Smith (or was Tony Smith also a "non-elite" coach)?
Come to that, where has it been for the last 15- 20 years?
You could put McNamara in charge of Australia and Wayne Bennett in charge of England. The result would be absolutely no different.
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| bet it would ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: roughyedspud "bet it would
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Quite how you've come it I've no idea, given that once the players get on the field the coach has a limited amount he can do to influence their performance.
Changing coaches won't make Sam Tomkins better than Billy Slater, or Luke Robinson better than Cameron Smith, or Atkins/Shenton better than Inglis/Hodges.
It's a British disease passed down from the round ball game that if it's all going wrong on the pitch then it's entirely down to the coach and simply changing that one person will make all the difference.
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| wayne bennett would let em play......McNamara does'nt
can i just say as well......theres a few people whinging about the exiles being over 30's has beens
the average age of the exiles was 29!....with 200 test caps
in todays origin game 2.....theres a fair few 29-30 years olds....and a couple of 34 & 35 year olds...and steve price was 36 last year
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| Quote: roughyedspud "wayne bennett would let em play......McNamara does'nt
can i just say as well......theres a few people whinging about the exiles being over 30's has beens
the average age of the exiles was 29!....with 200 test caps
in todays origin game 2.....theres a fair few 29-30 years olds....and a couple of 34 & 35 year olds...and steve price was 36 last year
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Average age was 30
Youngest 24, 3 x 25 year olds a 28 year old and the rest over 30, hardly a squad that will be together for the future.
You may have missed it but Steve Price did not play SOO last year and retired in June last year.
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