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Quote: Hear Ye! "I'm not saying Wales don't deserve that spot in the 4N's...I fully understand the need for teams like Wales, France, PNG etc to get a chance against the "big 3" teams in the world. If we're honest though, will Wales win a game in the 4N's? I for one hope they do (against Aus or NZ You're missing the point. It's about the structure of the international game and being long term. Whatever the problems Italy have in the six nations they will come good, france in the same comp got hammered for decades! But they stuck by the structure. Without this structure wales, france, png et al will never be competitive. How can you expect a team not getting regular exposure to that level to suddenly make some magic leap? The exiles are a good short term measure but beyond a good trial for england mid-season it is a dead end for the long term future of the international game.

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Quote: Ashy "There is a lot of potential in the playing staff but no one to give them the elite coaching they need. '"


Where was this talent in the last World Cup under Tony Smith (or was Tony Smith also a "non-elite" coach)?

Come to that, where has it been for the last 15- 20 years?

You could put McNamara in charge of Australia and Wayne Bennett in charge of England. The result would be absolutely no different.

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Quote: roughyedspud "bet it would
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

Quite how you've come it I've no idea, given that once the players get on the field the coach has a limited amount he can do to influence their performance.

Changing coaches won't make Sam Tomkins better than Billy Slater, or Luke Robinson better than Cameron Smith, or Atkins/Shenton better than Inglis/Hodges.

It's a British disease passed down from the round ball game that if it's all going wrong on the pitch then it's entirely down to the coach and simply changing that one person will make all the difference.

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wayne bennett would let em play......McNamara does'nt


can i just say as well......theres a few people whinging about the exiles being over 30's has beens


the average age of the exiles was 29!....with 200 test caps


in todays origin game 2.....theres a fair few 29-30 years olds....and a couple of 34 & 35 year olds...and steve price was 36 last year
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Quote: roughyedspud "wayne bennett would let em play......McNamara does'nt


can i just say as well......theres a few people whinging about the exiles being over 30's has beens


the average age of the exiles was 29!....with 200 test caps


in todays origin game 2.....theres a fair few 29-30 years olds....and a couple of 34 & 35 year olds...and steve price was 36 last year
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Average age was 30
Youngest 24, 3 x 25 year olds a 28 year old and the rest over 30, hardly a squad that will be together for the future.

You may have missed it but Steve Price did not play SOO last year and retired in June last year.

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