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Quote: Odemwingie "
In conclusion as a RL fan I rejoice in the development of the venues where our great game is played. Show me another sport in the world which has so many stadium developments going on in just one league. These new stadiums and extensions will see RL develop over the coming years and I can't wait for them all to finish. I am sick of all the doom and gloom about how franchising is not working etc. well franchising has had a big part to play in some of these developments. Its fantastic to see in our sport, you don't see so many stadium developments going on in RU. Hopefully this will make our sport sustainable for years to come and we will see crowds fly up as a result.'"


Here's the problem: Stadiums are only part of the reason for attendance growth. Far more grassroots stuff needs to take place in English RL before these new facilities can be used to their full potential. That's not to say that they aren't welcome, but they shouldn't be used a sign of "flying crowds" to come. Again, crowds are the result of grassroots work, not new stadiums.

To answer your question: Poland will in 2011 complete a total of 19 new stadium/redevelopment projects.

As someone who ardently follows stadium development, I can assure you that at this point, of the 93 projects currently under construction of stadiums over 30,000 and arenas over 10,000, 72 are for football, 11 for basketball, 2 for baseball, 2 for gridiron, 3 for Union and 3 for cricket. So that doesn't even include the plethora of stadiums which are under 30,000 (where the SL stadiums would be a part of).

Don't mean to be a downer, but you asked the question. As I said, stadium sell outs in new facilities will follow good work done at grassroots level. All of it will be for nothing if more people aren't playing/being introduce to the game.

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Quote: MjM "Although not a Bradfordian per se, my observation is that Valley Parade is (sort of) the right stadium in completely, disastrously, the wrong place. Odsal is the wrong stadium in the right place.'"


'disastrously'? Why? Because it's a poor area? Ive not seen many classy areas of Bradford, and it's RL, we hardly need our stadia in flash areas. It's an all seater stadium in the city. The pitch is too short mind you!!

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Quote: deeHell "I find it very hard to believe Weldon Roads value is the same as funding a brand new stadium. '"


Cas were originally selling WR to a housing developer. I'm not sure on the final figure but it would be plenty, but probably not a massive amount to fund a fancy shiny new stadium in full. The latest idea is to sell to Opus who build supermarkets for the big boys. This is by far a greater value sale than what would be to a housing developer. At a guess, and I claim to be no expert, it's more of an £18m now compared to a £7m before? I've no proof on figures, but just giving you the general idea. So yes, the sale of WR to Opus would fund the new stadium. The talk of £150m banded about is for the whole project, Cas wouldn't get anywhere near that.

Back tracking 6 months or so, many people were saying that the problem Cas had was funding. The murmurs from Cas were that we'd probably have enough money to build, but it may be a staged build or a less fancy stadium. This was at the time we were selling to a housing developer. I've no idea if the housing developer pulled out or stalled or if we chased for a better deal elsewhere but somewhere along the lines Cas found out that selling to such as Opus, with planning permission for a new stadium would be far more beneficial, hence the latest stall.

I hope that gives you an idea of what is happening, without every one else's point scoring, bitching, petty name calling etc that goes off on every single other thread on the boards. I'm no expert, have no insider info, I wasn't talking to an old guy in the market who takes RWs dog for a walk and I don't work for Legoland or any other building construction firm.

Can you sign the petition mate please in my signature below! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Odemwingie "I know Leigh is an example of this but they are not in super league, I'm sure if they were then the stadium would have huge benefits.

It has for every other super league club.

You must also remember a stadium is a LONG TERM investment... it's not just about revenue next season, it is the next 100 years.'"


If the RFL let them in then they will make a profit, otherwise they make a loss and eventually go bust

If you dont have a new stadium the RFL wont let you in, so you go bust

If you try and build one with no income, you go bust

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Surely any European funding should only apply to the sections of the ground that are in Belgium?





[sizeYes, I know the UK is in the EU as well, but then the joke wouldn't work.[/size'"


The South stand is in Belgium so they will be ok for that funding. icon_lol.gif

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Catalans new stand which is open for the game with Leeds live on sky. The stand (and game) is sold out appart from the corner where the flood light blocks the view.

The stadium will really look the part when finished... it looks quality now. Great stuff!



www.mairie-perpignan.fr/sites/de ... stoire.pdf pdf document.

Class!

The South of France franchise is here to stay in super league for many years!


Catalans new stand which is open for the game with Leeds live on sky. The stand (and game) is sold out appart from the corner where the flood light blocks the view.

The stadium will really look the part when finished... it looks quality now. Great stuff!



www.mairie-perpignan.fr/sites/de ... stoire.pdf pdf document.

Class!

The South of France franchise is here to stay in super league for many years!


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