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| Quote SBR="SBR"I don't know where this idea has come from but it is clearly not true. Certainly in the dead in goal situation players were making the ball dead not on the full to get a tap restart. Maybe it is just that you don't see it happen often as generally there is no advantage to making the ball dead after it has bounced as opposed to doing it on the full - Whiting didn't do it on purpose.
Nah, I had a close look on the replays and he definitely had both feet on the touch line before he caught the ball. Had he caught it then stepped into touch then the decision to give Saints the head and feed would have been correct.'"
Reading thru this thread you're spot on.
I'm a Saints fan but it was a wrong call from the TJ/Referee and proved costly for Hull. Saints scored from the scrum.
Imagine Whiting caught the ball 5 metres over the touchline. There wouldn't even be a debate about it as everyone would know he was in touch when he caught the ball.
Standing on the white line is exactly the same as the line is deemed touch. Should have been head and feed to Hull. |
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| Quote R&C="R&C"Reading thru this thread you're spot on.
I'm a Saints fan but it was a wrong call from the TJ/Referee and proved costly for Hull. Saints scored from the scrum.
Imagine Whiting caught the ball 5 metres over the touchline. There wouldn't even be a debate about it as everyone would know he was in touch when he caught the ball.
Standing on the white line is exactly the same as the line is deemed touch. Should have been head and feed to Hull.'"
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The annoying thing about this is that its understandable for people on here not to understand the Laws but when you get the likes of Paul Cullen on Boots N All last night, highlighting it as a Hull error, then theres not much hope.
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| Quote R&C="R&C"Reading thru this thread you're spot on.
I'm a Saints fan but it was a wrong call from the TJ/Referee and proved costly for Hull. Saints scored from the scrum.
Imagine Whiting caught the ball 5 metres over the touchline. There wouldn't even be a debate about it as everyone would know he was in touch when he caught the ball.
Standing on the white line is exactly the same as the line is deemed touch. Should have been head and feed to Hull.'"
That rule only applies on the full. Meli's kick bounced.
And as for Ganson obstructing O'Meley....seems the prop was rather quick out of the scrum, considering props are pretty binded in there. |
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| Quote MSH="MSH"That rule only applies on the full. Meli's kick bounced.
And as for Ganson obstructing O'Meley....seems the prop was rather quick out of the scrum, considering props are pretty binded in there.'"
As I was saying -its understandable people here not knowing the Laws, but full time professional coaches/managers?
Whether he caught it on the full or not makes no difference. |
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| Quote MSH="MSH"That rule only applies on the full. Meli's kick bounced.'"
So a player kicks the ball towards touch; it bounces before leaving the field of play, whereon a player, stood in touch over near the boards, catches it. What's the call? |
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I've just spent too long looking for the rules regarding the Whiting decision. The call by the touch judge and Ganson WAS CORRECT. I wasn't sure myself at first which is why I looked.
If the player catches the ball in touch after the ball has already bounced in the field of play then the head and feed goes to the kicking team.
However, If the ball does not bounce in the field of play and is caught in touch then the head and feed will go to the receiving team.
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| Quote TheElectricGlidingWarrior="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"So a player kicks the ball towards touch; it bounces before leaving the field of play, whereon a player, stood in touch over near the boards, catches it. What's the call?'"
Then its just kicked out and the other team get it via a scrum where it exited the field of play. Said player has no bearing.
Watch a 40/20 attempt, one the FB/winger is near to. They attempt to bat the ball back in play, or grab it, before it crosses the line, being careful to avoid stepping on the line while touching the ball. Whats being suggested on here is that he can step out, then just grab the ball, that nullifies any 40/20 and his team get the ball. |
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"I've just spent too long looking for the rules regarding the Whiting decision. The call by the touch judge and Ganson WAS CORRECT. I wasn't sure myself at first which is why I looked.
If the player catches the ball in touch after the ball has already bounced in the field of play then the head and feed goes to the kicking team.
However, If the ball does not bounce in the field of play and is caught in touch then the head and feed will go to the receiving team.'" |
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| Quote MSH="MSH"Then its just kicked out and the other team get it via a scrum where it exited the field of play. Said player has no bearing.'"
So what's the difference between being stood in touch (my example) and stood on the touch line (Whiting)?
Quote MSHWatch a 40/20 attempt, one the FB/winger is near to. They attempt to bat the ball back in play, or grab it, before it crosses the line, being careful to avoid stepping on the line while touching the ball. Whats being suggested on here is that he can step out, then just grab the ball, that nullifies any 40/20 and his team get the ball.'"
I don't see how that is being suggested. It wouldn't nullify the 40-20. |
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| Quote TheElectricGlidingWarrior="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"So what's the difference between being stood in touch (my example) and stood on the touch line (Whiting)?'"
No difference, the rule I posted above applies. |
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