They have lower crowds than the crusaders, and are lieing about their crowd totals. They must be adding season ticket holders even if they don't turn up.

Very sad to see. I want them to succeed, but something needs to happen drastically.

Problem is this is SL not PL. Our sugar daddys don;t have that deep a pocket and whilst they put in a fair whack it is clearly not enough for Quins. They are obviously not paying close to the salary cap and their marketing dept and other off field staff is poor. I'd love to know what their annual budget is, I would suspect it is 1/2 of most SL clubs and the results are there for all to see. The results of this should be a concern for the RFL.

I think it is. Hughes managed to get the RFL to take on some of the cost of youth development in London. I was pretty surprised to discover how much of the youth development in the South had historically been funded only by the Broncos/Quins, until this year. Some of that is now being helped by the RFL.

I think the problem is that we've approached RL in London (and elsewhere) in a typically half-d RL way. We say we'll do something, then sit back and wait for it to happen through the efforts of someone else, offering little more than warm words. A decision needs to be made about whether we are serious about establishing a successful professional presence in the capital. If we are, then we need to fund it, in the same way the Aussie sports' governing bodies fund their attempts to expand into each others' territory. If we don't think that it's a strategic necessity for our competition, then we carry on the way we are, and when Hughes runs out of cash/motivation, then Quins/Broncos will be history and 30 years of professional RL in the capital will come to an end. Ironically, that would happen just as the talent conveyor belt is beginning to start producing interesting results, but that would end too.

I think we are at a turning point, but I for one would like to see us finding ways of investing in what we want to achieve, rather than simply shrugging our shoulders and saying "well, it's all , let's get back to the M62".

Sadly bringing Widnes in has just done that.

RL has one thing that other sports lack, a real exciting game on the field.

The game just seems to struggle with the secondary aspects of running the sport.

There is a "hybrid" thread somewhere else about "merging"

Perhaps RL needs RU business acumen.

You would be correct but seeing as you and Starbug were talking about the best and worst team in either league, it's also redundant.

Ah ok. I thought by worst he meant the team(s) finishing lowest.

What did he mean by worst then?

Plenty of z's in that post.

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You say in 79 words something which could have been said in 8.

But he SAYS it with such a sense of FLAMBOYANCE!!

Why can NO ONE underSTAND the IMPORTANCE of the post is beyond ME!!!

Just how many of the moaning mini's have bothered to attend the Stoop rather than slagging off the club?

I was their for that one boy it was a cold night and a crap game of Rugby.

I love for quins to do well but I'm now at a lost of how to do it. They couldn't even give away 2,500 pairs of tickets. For me the ground is great sometimes its a pain in the ass to get to. But I dont think the Quins brand works. I would drop it and I would like to them to leave the stoop but thats the question where to. There is no where unless they can build their own ground.

East End of London. Plenty of room at Dagenham now that Ford has slimmed down and released land for development. Next to the high speed line, M25, national rail and tube.