What have wakefield done in the last 30 years?

You are talking about a time in which they were successful. Any team can do that. The fact of the matter is, they have been a relativly poor team for a number of years

And you should go back and read the thread before posting,

I was responding to Smokeys ridiculous comment that Wakefield were a waste of a club for it's whole history

i never said that. You have made it up. I said that they have taken 100 + years to get to this point. The fact they have relied on overseas players throughout their SL lifetime, the fact they facilities they play in are poor, the fact they dont have a lot of money to put out a competitive side, the fact they have struggled on the field for the last 50 years, the fact they are in danger of losing their license is down to their failings, nobody elses, and wishing the death of Crusaders to cover up for these failings is pathetic. If Wakefield excelled as a club then they wouldnt be in danger, it is because they havent that they are in danger and regardless of Crusaders, it is Wakefield who have got themselves into this position.

You must have been spoilt for choice.

Thats 8 Barry/Katie/Phipps.

You have made far more than 8 Smokey

Far more.





Or do you just mean today?

Of course others club have, just that in the case of the ‘big boys’ they have brought in quality imports, rather than 2nd rate journeymen. Who are the clubs that haven’t, the likes of Huddersfield, Castleford, Widnes & Salford? All clubs who found themselves relegated.





Well, based on the Trophies one, it’s been a bit of a closed shop, wouldn’t you say?

Regarding attendances, I don’t think Wakefield’s attendances have been too bad, considering the lack of success & the dilapidated stadium. As for players brought through, I suggest you look around the league, why, Leeds even took one themselves.




Come on Smokey, you know what I meant, that’s like saying Harlequins didn’t go bust, what’s in a name change!



The collapse of the Crusaders, which one?

The one when they changed their name & location, or the one at the back end of last year, or, if the latest reports are to be believed, the imminent one

You just cannot shove a club into the elite division, in an expansion area and expect it to be viable, so who pays?

Wakefield’s collapse has nothing to do with their proximity to Castleford, there are enough potential spectators for both clubs.

And look at what Hudds and Cas have managed to change. Look at Warrington and even quins movement towards developed players rather than 2nd rate imports. Wakefield have been forced into a similar position, which is a good thing, by overseas players leaving and there not been the opportunity to bring in tons of overseas players.

And even though those clubs were relegated, they are in a better position, right now, that Wakefield are (bar widnes who have yet to prove anything)


Theres not a lot is there. And whilst Wakefields attendances may not be too bad considering the lack of success and the dilapidated stadium, they still have a lack of success, still have a dilapidated stadium and are solely responsible for their lack of success and dilapidated stadium.


They went into administration once. Under all guises they only 'collapsed' once. And when they went bust they blamed historic debts from the previous owners, Debts which wouldnt have existed had they 'gone bust' when they moved to Wrexham.
The only one which actually happened.

Who says? it seems you have chosen a very circular argument. If we start off with that hypothesis being true, then yes we can find evidence that vindicates us. But thats simply poor thinking.

Crusaders collapse doesnt prove SL in wrexham cannot work, any more than Wakefields collapse proves two SL clubs in WMDC cannot work.

Crusaders collapse has nothing to do with them being in an expansion area, there is enough potential spectators for Crusaders.

wakefield have been pretty average throughout SL (quite an achievement on the shoestring they had), however the same can be said of just about all the other teams with the exception of leeds, st helens and before that bradford.

wigan , hull and warrington have had a few good seasons but mainly underachieved and huddersfield were spectacularly bad for years.

at the moment there is no superpower in SL despite the big bucks being thrown down some very deep holes.

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To further answer your question,

If you mean in pure financial terms then twice (not too bad in in 137 years) both in the last 10 years and both under an old regime which has been replaced by a better more financially stable one.