I don't play rugby but have supported Wire all my life and what i can't understand is ...why have a scrum? In Union the scrum is contested but in League the ball is just fed into the back row with no contest from the opposing pack pack. Surely something else could be done instead of this.

Just my opinions by the way.

Here's an idea - competitve scrums? It's messy - Ref them properly!

yay, waste time setting and resetting scrums so we can have a competition for a ball we cant see. What a great spectacle that would be.

If it wasnt a union invention, we would have the lineout replacing the scrum already. It is a spectacle, and it is a competitive way of restarting the game, doesnt take long to set up and allows for vast variation.

and the funniest thing was when they got a penalty... the players didnt know that it was a differential penalty, or what that meant!!!

Jamie Soward had to have it explained by the ref!

shows how long since the scrums were penalised... and IMO returning to the penalty offered nothing to the game but an excuse for the ref to blow the whistle!!

Your quite right - why not make it honest. Lets mark four circles - one in each quarter of the field, and instead of a messy scrum get the 12 forwards to stand within the circle - maybe holding hands? - while the backs line up for a tap restart.



Nothing up with a contested rugby league scrum, if the players and officials know what they are doing.

Great news.

Ffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeding !!!!!
"Bloody 'ell - did you see that? - he threw it in at the loose forwards feet. Come on ref ....... Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeding !!!"

It's not a "union invention" it is a legacy from our shared history pre 1895 and we ditched it in 1897 (and, IMO, haven't missed it).

Well, maybe rephrasing as "would be looked upon as a union invention" would be better.

Semantics aside, it would work better than the scrum does currently and would be a competitive and varied way of restarting the game.

lol

Me too. Got a mate who watches Yawnion at work who hates lineouts because every team has a player or two on the pitch who's major Rugby skill is 'being tall', because of lineouts.

I just get tetchy when anyone from either side tries to write pre-1895 out of our history



As for line outs... the "for all shapes and sizes" myth is founded on the beanpollery required to play in the line out - it is not natural or appealing to me, or a productive use of playing time.