No, but because of Hulls history, our average attendences, big revenue from shirt sales and merchandise, big sponsorship deal, good facilities, good youth set up, making a self sufficent profit, all of these despite having a rival in the city it's safe to say only an idiot would say it isn't a big club, as a general set up off the field I'd say only bettered by Leeds and Wigan.

There are shortcomings in the squad, but there are also some very good players, the biggest reason why we are not competing with the big boys is Agar in my opinion, that and maybe a few questionable recruitment decisions (Long being one) and although Agar may not be fully responsible in that department he will have an input, it would take a good argument to say that everything isn't set up for Hull to challenge for trophies.

Which means they were never "superstars" in the beginning!!!

You mean the Leeds model, copied by St Helens and then in turn, copied by Wigan 25 years later when they realised Aussie journeymen nearly get you relegated?

How does it?

Wigan v Manly - 1987 WCC Final.

16 British players in the team of 17.
7 of which came through the Wigan Academy system
An additional 2 were Wiganers who came back to play for their hometown club.

Neither does having a rich owner