No, but because of Hulls history, our average attendences, big revenue from shirt sales and merchandise, big sponsorship deal, good facilities, good youth set up, making a self sufficent profit, all of these despite having a rival in the city it's safe to say only an idiot would say it isn't a big club, as a general set up off the field I'd say only bettered by Leeds and Wigan.

There are shortcomings in the squad, but there are also some very good players, the biggest reason why we are not competing with the big boys is Agar in my opinion, that and maybe a few questionable recruitment decisions (Long being one) and although Agar may not be fully responsible in that department he will have an input, it would take a good argument to say that everything isn't set up for Hull to challenge for trophies.

They were inconsistent last year, not necessarily poor (we were one game off the top four, so can't have been that bad!).

And if you think that people think Hull are a big club because of the stadium (which doesn't belong to the football club) and because they're based in a city, then you're either an idiot or purposely trying to talk down the size of the club because you're envious.

I wouldn't call Long a questionable recruitment decision to be honest. Like those around him, there is only so much you can do in a poor set-up. Andrew Johns in his prime would probably fail at Hull at the moment. There is just that much wrong to do with on the pitch.

A great coach with a team full of average players will on most occasions beat a crap coach with a team full of superstars IMO. Under a poor coach, the superstars won't be superstars for long!

I thought taking a big club and turning them into a ragtag bunch of no-hopers normally gets you the England job.

It was when the England job was up for grabs that the Hull BOD and no doubt their CEO decided to award Agar another two year contract. Of course he accepted!
Said it before, it's not Agar that should go first but the BOD and CEO. It is those who appointed Agar in the first place and then renewed his contract that need to go.
The HullFC owners need to put in place good decision makers.

Like that

and some Hull fans want him at the KC

They are and the sad thing is , It's people that have been going for a very long time

Which means they were never "superstars" in the beginning!!!

You mean the Leeds model, copied by St Helens and then in turn, copied by Wigan 25 years later when they realised Aussie journeymen nearly get you relegated?

How does it?

Wigan v Manly - 1987 WCC Final.

16 British players in the team of 17.
7 of which came through the Wigan Academy system
An additional 2 were Wiganers who came back to play for their hometown club.