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| Nah, Ashton's overrated. Wales were abysmal in that match. With the exception of Toby "Hammer of the Welsh" Flood, both sides were equally dire. Ashton just got on the end of a bit of Flood genius.
And Italy have even less strength in depth than Wales. It was the injuries to too many key players that did for Italy.
Though 4 tries against the IRB 12th ranked team, decimated by injuries, is a decent start he's no better than any of the other "great league hopes". He may be a loss to League. It remains to be seen whether he's a gain to Union.
Score a try against a top 5 team Ashton, then we'll talk again.
Now Jason Robinson. THERE was a successful convert. The human try machine. No Shane Williams, but a DEVASTATING attacker in a successful English team. His selection scared opponents. NO other league player has done that.
Lesley Vainakolo was meant to be England's answer to Jonah Lomu. We in Wales found that highly amusing. Especially when he was dumped on his arrse by Ickle Shane. The Volcano is now only ever picked for Saxons (Ingerlund 'A')
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| you know what I find funny is when you heard the BBC commentators waxing lyrical over Sonny Bill's handling skills when NZ last came over.
Rugby League players have been showing these skills for years..
I think Sonny Bill will come back to Rugby League. One thing that he will always have in his head is that he missed out on NZ winning the RL world cup and 4 nations. I have no doubt that he would have loved to have been part of that team!
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| But being a Union All Black is hardly second best. They are the top team in the world at NZ's most popular sport, even if they ARE RUWC chokers.
As regards handling skills, All Blacks ALL have those skills. There's ferck all else to do in NZ than to handle one's balls, so no wonder they get good at it.
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| Quote Grendel="Grendel"Nah, Ashton's overrated. Wales were abysmal in that match. With the exception of Toby "Hammer of the Welsh" Flood, both sides were equally dire. Ashton just got on the end of a bit of Flood genius.
And Italy have even less strength in depth than Wales. It was the injuries to too many key players that did for Italy.
Though 4 tries against the IRB 12th ranked team, decimated by injuries, is a decent start he's no better than any of the other "great league hopes". He may be a loss to League. It remains to be seen whether he's a gain to Union.
Score a try against a top 5 team Ashton, then we'll talk again.
Now Jason Robinson. THERE was a successful convert. The human try machine. No Shane Williams, but a DEVASTATING attacker in a successful English team. His selection scared opponents. NO other league player has done that.
Lesley Vainakolo was meant to be England's answer to Jonah Lomu. We in Wales found that highly amusing. Especially when he was dumped on his arrse by Ickle Shane. The Volcano is now only ever picked for Saxons (Ingerlund 'A')'"
Ashton's first 3 tries were against Australia, 1 down in Sydney and 2 at Twickenham, one of which was a great 90 meter try, which got voted IRB try of the year.
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| Roger the rabbit!
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| Quote nickcat0="nickcat0"You are really "cjhatesunion" and I claim my £5
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Nowt do with me nick but i wholeheartedly agree with him. 
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| Our biggest loss to Rugby Union is surrendering the name 'Rugby' and losing the opportunity to build our brand
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| The biggest lost is what happened in France.
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| Quote Damo-Leeds="Damo-Leeds"The biggest lost is what happened in France.'" hopefully oneday it might recover....
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| Quote nickcat0="nickcat0"You are really "cjhatesunion" and I claim my £5
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I hate union, but that ain't me!
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| Quote Damo-Leeds="Damo-Leeds"The biggest lost is what happened in France.'"
What happened in France?
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