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Quote: Urmston Wire "I've done a lot of research into this, and have a degree in French, so here's my twopennorth on this.

The Nazis never made a specific request for RL to be banned. Professional sport was banned by the Vichy regime- but this meant sport in its pro form, not all sports which had pro setups. Association football was not banned, but its professionalism was suppressed.

Two people are behind the banning of RL. The first is Jean Ybanegaray, who was a minister in Petain's government. He was from French RL's heartlands but was a devotee of pelota, which he believed was the best sport going. He was the one who organised the ban.

But the inspiration is the second figure, the writer Robert Brasillach. He was RU-obsessed and hated RL with a passion. He used his connections with the regime (he ran its unoffical paper, 'Je suis partout') to have RL suppressed as a 'threat to the morals of French youth'.

My point therefore is this

thats true

it wasnt the idea of the vichy government to ban RL. the idea of the ban came from bitter RU people.

indeed soccer was also a professional sport like RL but it continued on

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Quote: Dico "Is no one a bit worried about what happens when Union, as they are clearly discussing, opens up its game via the rules into a more flowing game?
I caught a couple of S14 games last year with these new ruck rules and it was a far superior product. Granted it looked like a full time version of league 50 years ago and I still prefer my league but this year in SL and the NRL there were some downright boring attrition games at times. There is more variety in the union game and if someone wakes up, smells the roses and basically admits we were right all along

Union is still about 100 years behind on the field.

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Quote: Dico "Theres some decent elements.. but overall its just flipping boring.
We'll always be on top in the product stakes until they change something fundamental, to which I think they will.

They have to get off their high horse, as discussed in this thread first though.
That, or they'll go down to 13 men and ditch rucks and claim the idea as their own.'"


nah SL is fine.

RL in england has decades of growth ahead of it

funnily i always associate a stronger nrl with a stronger SL and the nrl is going from strength to strength

club union is flogging a dead horse

with saturation media coverage they still get poor club crowds and the clubs are all (or 90% of them) losing millions

SL should just continue improving as a competition and it will become the 2nd most popular football code.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "I dont think league is 'better' than Union... its like saying milk chocolate is 'better' than dark chocolate.'"


The first bit is a given with you btw...

Moreover, I don't buy the analogy unless you add some other factors, such as in the case of dark (union) versus milk (rugby league) chocolate:

1. dark chocolate advocates tipped glass in the milk chocolate mixing tanks;
2. dark chocolate advocates flooded the milk chocolate factory so they couldn't make chocolate;
3. dark chocolate lobbied the government to outlaw milk chocolate;
4. dark chocolate used its political position to try and introduce a law stating "all milk to be used in chocolate making was to be restricted to the making of dark chocolate (whether required or otherwise)";
5. milk chocolate was renamed "not quite dark chocolate" etc. etc.

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Quote: dally messenger "nah SL is fine.

RL in england has decades of growth ahead of it

funnily i always associate a stronger nrl with a stronger SL and the nrl is going from strength to strength

club union is flogging a dead horse

with saturation media coverage they still get poor club crowds and the clubs are all (or 90% of them) losing millions

SL should just continue improving as a competition and it will become the 2nd most popular football code.'"



Club Rugby Union seems to be going from strength to strength in this country and its still so painful to watch. It was just an observation that if the RU premiership flowed as well as these few S14 games I watched, we'd be in trouble.

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Quote: Dico "Club Rugby Union seems to be going from strength to strength in this country and its still so painful to watch. It was just an observation that if the RU premiership flowed as well as these few S14 games I watched, we'd be in trouble.'"


Crowds are falling. The people have awaken to the awful product.

I noticed that the Russian government has made league clubs switch to union in the hope of winning gold in 7's at London 2012.

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