Lee Briers and Danny Brough are both English, they represent Wales and Scotland as they have been neglected by the English selectors. This year Brough tried to get into the England team but was knocked back by selectors, openly showing his desire to represent England.

Brough may not produce world beating performances week in week out but there is an obvious level of consistency as he has won the Albert Goldthorpe medal and been in contention for it every year since.

Did he get knocked back?

I thought he put himself in the scottish camp before a single player had been named in the squads...same for Briers...

OK … Would this be Danny "I'm Scottish; No; I'm English, No; I'm Scottish again" Brough.


happier?

Not really...

Thats unfair in the case of Briers. He has represented Wales with distinction since he was 19 years old and has never shown any inclination to play for England. He may have been neglected by the GB selectors but thats a whole different issue.

I wasn't talking to you, but Danny … sorry, MAL

Does England need Danny Brough? Well, I certainly wish that his kicking game was on the pitch in the Four Nations... it is certainly among the finest in Super League and probably only rivalled by Dobson in my opinion. I guess we need any or all of Widdop, Brown and Tomkins to step up with a crucial kicking game

But... along with the player comes the person. Now, I don’t know Brough personally but I see him as a very divisive personality on the pitch – he is quick to point out the failings of his team mates when things are not going well. One of the key elements to a tour like this is the development of the group mentality, certainly the failings of the World Cup were attributed in no small part to the cliques that appeared in camp – particularly those between Saints and Leeds players

One of the considerations of the management team would not only be the playing ability but the touring ability, taking players with the maturity to spend 6 weeks together without problems. We don’t know how this will work out in the Four Nations but the squad has a balanced look to it in that regard with no major ‘personalities’ in there (Robinson would have been a worry in his early days but he seems to have settled down a lot)

If England need Danny Brough they are further up street that I thought.

For all of you who are judging Danny Brough from the past i can only say he sems to have been a changed person since he came to the Giants.

In respect of consitency he has performed between being good to brilliant.

There have been no petulant outbursts and he has been very much a team player. AFAIK there have been no discipline problems.

Maybe he is maturing, maybe he has responded well to his new coaches.

What i would say is he would have been worth a place on the tour.

he is yet another reason that the decision to scrap the GB title was a retrograde step.

a bit like Chris ''Mick'' Bridge
and Ben ''Paddy '' Harrison Or do you only point out players swapping nationalities when they are NOT playing for England

Looking at the big picture, I would trade the availability of Danny Brough in the Four Nations for the continuous development of the Euro Nations tournament and the development of the overall international game