Stevo IS a generic commentator, he says the same things in every game. (i.e. saints will want to get off to a good start) REALLY??

When a team is on the attack near the line, he'll says watch out for (eg Wellens) and the play will go totally the other way.

The fella is useless on live TV, nice bloke in the "flesh" though.

I'm FURIOUS that this is being said

Yes but he doesn't sound like every other commentator out there which is my point. I remember when I first started watching SL I really enjoyed the freshness of listening to Eddie and Stevo compared to the often very dull football commentators.

The main issue I have with Stevo is his lack of understanding of the modern game and the laws.

If we genuinely want to attract new spectators to the sport through its television coverage then they need to be given clear, concise explanations of why a player or an official has done the thing he has - not someone who bumbles through an incorrect interpretation of the laws (he still believes you can throw a forward pass providing you run beyond the eventual receiver after you pass it FFS) or blaming every try scored out wide on the winger being "in no man's land".

I'm sure he's a really nice, genuine and enthusiastic bloke but he simply doesn't deliver the sort of information or analysis new viewers to the sport need to hear.

The thing is with Eddie & Stevo, they have become synonymous with RL commentary (whether you like it or not) and have a certain appeal to neutrals and first time viewers.

Nobody is arguing that they are the best but they do have a certain charm and easiness in front of the camera.

Send Phil Clarke to Alcatraz?

Isn't that kind of analysis supposed to be the domain of Clarke and the guest though? All commentators have bugbears, the momentum rule is Stevo's.

I think the move to 4 commentators has saved Stevo's career, there is less focus on him to fill time and as a result he's become less 'controversial', Eddie appears to have stepped up to fill that gap though unfortunately. I think the 4 together adds an almost fan style conversational style to the commentary that I prefer. I also like the fact that they argue with each other and have a bit of a laugh at times.

IMO what's missing is a seperate NRL tactics type of show which discussed tactial matters in depth, the best part of BnA is the Wells bit at the beginning, but it's a too short.

Ban Eddie from talking about Leeds or even better get Mick Morgan commentating with Barrie Mac. Subtitles may be needed for southern viewers but some of the quotes would be fantastic.

Barrie does come out with some cracking quotes and with Mick Morgan it would be brilliant.

After watching the doco about Eddie Waring the other night I can see a lot of similarities between Eddie's and Stevo's career. When he started out Stevo was very good at the time, but the game moved on, fashions changed and he lost touch. Eventually, in trying to stay true to what he was, what he knows and what he thinks the audience want he's become a bit of a parody of himself. This has alienated most RL fans who watch Sky, its clear he's lost touch and really infuriates more than anything.

There are lots of things about his commentary I dislike. If a big play is being set up in front of the try line he'll try to read it and say "Watch out for so-and-so". He'll read the play completely wrong. His point-match analysis irks me. I can't stand that really quiet, sage-like tone he uses as though he's some sort of stoical, omniscient elder stateman of the sport despite either talking at length about really basic issues or not really having a clue.

I don't mind Eddie too much; he's got a good clear voice that develops urgency and intensity and he's good at the straight talking, tackle by tackle name-drop style, but he is a bit repetitive. He doesn't vary his phrases (think "Wide to West").

My favourite pairing is Dave Woods and John Kear. Woods does the straight talking bit and Kear combines both the in-deth, modern analysis and extremely passionate bluster. Its a joy to listen to Kear in full, gushing flow and you get the sense that Woods gets swept up in it as well.

Get rid of O'Connor!