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Quote: Spongolium "I asked for first team players, not players that have played 20 minutes off the bench in a call up. God you heartlands teams love doing that. Ah yes, Johnny from down the road played the last 10 minutes of game 2 in the season. Bringing through the youngsters see, it's a bit of a farce really.

Welsh Players, playing in the crusaders this season.
Elliot Kear - played early in the season, looks to be a lock next year.
Ben Flower - played in a number of games this year
Gareth Thomas - played most of the season before injury
Lloyd White - first call up in injury to half backs
Luke Dyer - played all season
Jordan James - played all season
Anthony Blackwood - Now transferred
Rhys Hanbury - Will be Qualified as welsh

English Players playing for the crusaders this season.
Tommy Lee - played in every game he was able too
Jamie Thackary - same as above
Peter Lupton - played in every game this year

The crusaders, for what everyone says, are not full of aussies. Yes we have a large majority of australian players, because we need them. The scorpions are 99% welsh, and made the play-offs this year. Couple of them look very promising for up and coming years.

We have yet to name any signings, but it looks like stuart reardon is on his way.

and fan of st helens. Are you blind?'"


and you support crusaders now?
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Quote: marshman "Compare the two teams that played on saturday.

Castleford Tigers

McGoldrick - Born Australia
Dixon - Born England (Hull)
Shenton - Born England (Castleford)
Ferres - Born England (Castleford)
Wainwright - Born England (Leeds)
Widders - Born Australia
ChaseBorn - New Zealand
Sargent - Born Australia
Hudson - Born England (Leeds)
Higgins - Born England (Doncaster)
Jones - Born England (Wigan)
Snitch - Born England (Hull)
Westerman - Born England (Castleford)
Huby - Born England (Castleford)
Milner - Born England (Castleford)
Walker - Born England (Leeds?)
Arundel - Born England (Castleford)

Crusaders

Schifcofske- Born Australia
Dyer - Born Australia
Martin - Born Australia
Mellars - Born New Zealand
Youngquest - Born Australia
Sammut - Born Australia
Hanbury - Born Australia
O'Hara - Born Australia
Withers - Born Australia
Bryant - Born Australia
Hauraki - Born New Zealand
Chan - Born Australia
Lupton - Born England
Lee - Born England
James - Born England
Peek - Born Australia
Winternstein - Born Australia'"



What i can see here is Crusaders are a team full of 3rd rate aussies who finished 8th and Castleford are a team full of 3rd rate Englishman who finished 9th.What's the problem eusa_whistle.gif
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Quote: Spongolium "You do realise that the crusaders have not been around forever right? You must know that they are a new team that were created on my doorstep. My alligence changed when a welsh team was created.'"


you couldnt make this amount of crap up. Changing allegiance? Never heard anything like it.
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Quote: gutterfax "The club owed 2 people.
The Inland Revenue and David Hughes. David Hughes offered to swallow his debt if the IR let the Broncos pay back the 1.5 million over a period of time. The IR refused, the club folded and the rest is history.......
fail to see you bringing this up has any relevance to the thoery that Harlequins Rugby League are not a thriving club. They have no debts...at all. No overdraft, no loans...just a very patient chairman.
Are you saying it's not fair that a business was allowed to fold, reinvent itself and not have to pay what it owed? If so, I would suggest you take that up with the Inland Revenue....they were offered payment but declined and the other SL chairmen who voted for the broncos to stay. I am sure they had their reasons (1.2 million of them)


I never said that they weren't a 'thriving' club. I was just putting straight the (perfectly legal) way said 'debt free' status was attained. Here's what the RFL had to say about it at the time...

"While London are undoubtedly relieved to have been saved, it cannot be allowed to mask the serious issue raised,"...

I expect the RFL to review its rules and make recommendations."

Perhaps we can learn something from other sports, particularly as regards the sanctions and penalties that may be available to ensure that defaulting clubs are not seen to have gained a competitive advantage."

Also, from the BBC...

"The Broncos had to rely on a narrow vote at Friday's emergency meeting of Super League clubs to allow them to play on"

So, whilst I wish the club every success going forward, I believe that one shouldn't make too much of their debt free status as I doubt many other clubs would've been treated with such leniency.
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Quote: teds wallet moth "To Spongolium!! i am a Wakefield supporter through thick and thin and was actually wanting Cas in the play offs! Yes CAS! There isnt a level playing field anymore in super league and until there is it will be the same corrupt bag of ***** it has been for years. Wake up and smell the coffee and just admit the team you support are a manufactured and paid for team created by Red Hall! you blinkered fool !!!!'"


Have Crusaders broken any rules, any rules whatsoever?!

Christ, the impatience of the typical Rugby League fan is shocking, Crusaders have been in Wrexham for ONE SEASON, make the top 8 and are being slated for having too many Aussies and the like? Give it time!

At the end of the day, this will only help, excellent chance for the marketing to sell a top 8 RL team.

And so much for the great Wakey-Cas rivalry...
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Quote: Cas Till I Die "The old give it time argument is a bit of a crappy cop out also, they have been playing rugby of all forms in wales as long as most SL clubs have existed.'"


Not really, full time pro RL has not existed in Wales for a while, only at part time level in the RL Conference.

And you know the difference between the RLC and Super League.
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