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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"or you essentially borrow a million off the club in year one and then pay it
back in year two , all on paper of course
No way have you increased your turnover by 160 percent , even if you had made the Challenge cup final and doubled your attendances you wouldn't,t have done that'"
i'm sorry, but could you point out exactly which financial reporting standard or international reporting standard allows a company to treat borrowing as turnover? i'll give you a clue, its frs 5 Quote StarbugFRS 5 'Reporting the Substance of Transactions'. The Application Note is concerned with the reporting of turnover - 'the top line' of the profit and loss account. Entities should report turnover only when they have performed in accordance with the contractual arrangements with their customers. Guidance is also given on the measurement of turnover where there are deferred payment terms or where there is a significant risk about the customer's ability to pay. '"
or any accountant on the planet who would even consider allowing the practice given the legal implications involved?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"or you essentially borrow a million off the club in year one and then pay it
back in year two , all on paper of course
No way have you increased your turnover by 160 percent , even if you had made the Challenge cup final and doubled your attendances you wouldn't,t have done that'"
I agree, it all looks very dubious.
there's no way a lottery scheme and a club shop has increased turnover that much.
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| Quote vikinggriff1979="vikinggriff1979"i'm sorry, but could you point out exactly which financial reporting standard or international reporting standard allows a company to treat borrowing as turnover? i'll give you a clue, its frs 5 or any accountant on the planet who would even consider allowing the practice given the legal implications involved?'"
Plus these are pre-tax profits. If SOC is fiddling the books he is robbing himself of a lot of money that will have to be handed over to the taxman from that £1million profit.
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| Quote UllFC="UllFC"I agree, it all looks very dubious.
there's no way a lottery scheme and a club shop has increased turnover that much.'"
Not on its own no, but that is not all there is to increase profits.
How much are our sponsors putting in?
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"Plus these are pre-tax profits. If SOC is fiddling the books he is robbing himself of a lot of money that will have to be handed over to the taxman from that £1million profit.'"
actually, given the losses last year, its likely that we had large taxable losses brought forward to ofset against this years profit. so tax would be less than you would expect
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| I'd like to see the naysayers actually spell out and prove how it's not possible rather than just say it's not. I didn't expect anything but bleating from certain quarters but facts are a bit more interesting to argue against, rather than responding to a few miserable tw*ts who have turned hoping something's not true into fact.
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| Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league'"
Did the last two years just pass you by?
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league'"
for christ sake, Do you know the rules regarding promotion and relegation in it's current form?
Im assuming you are completely ignorant of the process involved or you would not need to ask that question. Fev fail at every other aspect of the SL application process, They still have not earned the right to apply. they have a good team, and as a club are one of my fav clubs but they are not yet strong enough for SL.
Hell if we are asking dumb questions like that, then why are cats not getting relegated if they remain in bottom spot?
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| I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers'"
We spent the full cap. Unlike some others, we spent some of it investing in players from our academy. We also had a terrible injury list. But this whole sitting back accusation we've been hearing is nonsense. We spent the full cap, end of.
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