FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
94 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2015Jan 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Games/PDT_287.gif
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l61LLMTmrA&feature=related:2penstlp]Justin Murphy demonstrates the danger of playing on a soccer pitch that is too short for Rugby League[/url:2penstlp]:Games/PDT_287.gif



Quote: roughyedspud "australia have already confirmed they are'nt playing any tests after the 2012 season'"


We did play NZ in October 2007 in Wellington. I hope we play them at home and away in October 2012, to complete a 3 test series.

Quote: roughyedspud "forming a GB team would be pointless...12months before a world cup,where we compete as england,scotland & wales,we should be building the hype of england,scotland & wales.....not 17 englishmen playing as GB..'"


Firstly, England should already have built up the hype over three years of 4Ns & June test. English fans already know the team exists. RL people already know a World Cup will be held in 2013. There'll be a June test in 2012 and 2013 to help build hype anyway. Secondly, as for building the hype of Scotland, Wales and Ireland - how will an England series do that? it won't! How will a GB tour negatively affect the Celts? It won't. The Celts will only get a repeat of this year's European Championship, 3 games, regardless of whether England or GB toured.

A Kangaroo test series against GB in the UK in 2011 would have been great, say with a tour game against the Super League Champions, maybe against the Challenge Cup winning club as well. As it stands, a Great Britain tour of NZ would work well. I'd see the following games working:

13th October: European Cup Week 1, Roses Origin Game 1
20th October: European Cup Week 2, Roses Origin Game 2, Trans Tasman Test 2
27th October: European Cup Week 3, Trans Tasman Test 3 (England players fly to Southern Hemisphere, get a week off)
31st October: Warriors vs GB - Mt Smart, Auckland (mid-week, Wednesday night)
3rd November: NZ Maori vs GB - Rotorua/Hamilton/Whangarei
10th November: NZ-GB 1st test - Christchurch/Dunedin
17th November: NZ-GB 2nd test - Wellington
24th November: NZ-GB 3rd test - Eden Park, Auckland

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2015Jan 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Games/PDT_287.gif
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l61LLMTmrA&feature=related:2penstlp]Justin Murphy demonstrates the danger of playing on a soccer pitch that is too short for Rugby League[/url:2penstlp]:Games/PDT_287.gif



Quote: Wellsy13 "I wouldn't like to see them play the Warriors. International tours should play international teams and build up representative rugby.'"


There's a place for both. Tour games can be more competitive, generate more revenue, be logistically easier to plan and run, and be more meaningful to established RL communities than certain test matches, e.g. Big 3 tests against certain emerging nations.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner10000No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8202.jpg
[url=//www.facebook.com/wellsmotors:2svvs5eg][img:2svvs5eg]//i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/wellsy13/Wells%20Motors%20(Signature)_zps67e534e4.jpg[/img:2svvs5eg][/url:2svvs5eg]:8202.jpg



Quote: Jonesy "Wellsy,
I cant do it like you do where you quote every sentence that suits you and come up with half a reply.'"

I don't quote every sentence that "suits me". I quote every sentence that I disagree with (which was most of them). Which ones do you think "didn't suit me".

Ironically, the thing you're having a go at me for here (which isn't true) is exactly what you've done in this reply (i.e. ignore my reply to your comment that a crowd of 31k for a 4N Final being "a poor effort"icon_wink.gif.

Again, contradicting yourself.

Quote: Jonesy "I will say this
Thorman played 11 games for Parramatta 5 years ago.
Mathers was an up and coming superstar in SL and played 4-5 games for the Titans
Tansey was the most bizarre signing of all but did ok for the Newtown Jets with a couple of games in the NRL.

What is the common theme of the players mentioned above?
They were paid pretty well match payments and no Australians had heard of them.

In Contrast...
Some old busted ar*e Aussie or never has been Aussie comes to SL in massive numbers and its the second coming of Christ by the fans.
How many Aussies or Kiwis in SL this year again?'"

That was my point.
You didn't "cherry pick" the best of English players like you said. You picked up some duds as well.
How many of the dud Aussies that come over here do you think the English public have heard of and are paid loads? They are called "cheap options" for a reason. You can pretend that we think they're all superstars all you like. The fact is, most fans ridicule their signings.

It happens both ways.

Quote: Jonesy "Ellis is on less than he would get in England, Burgess could be anything depending on Crowes involvement.'"

So they could be paying him big bucks then for all you know? Rusty even came over to England to convince him to sign, and you Aussies are wetting yourselves at how good he is.

Again, works both ways.

Quote: Jonesy "How much did YOU pay for Berro? in his twilight years 31 now, or Fitz at 33 hardly in their prime are they?'"

Me personally? Nothing other than the contribution I make to the club with my season pass and merchandise purchases!

Berro wasn't in the twilight of his career when we signed him, unless you think a 27 year old is "past it". As I said before, he was a current Aussie international, and the current MOM holder at the GF. He was in his prime.

Fitz was signed on a one year deal to aid in the development of the players around him with his work ethic (much like when we signed Kearney, which got us a Challenge Cup). Again, a World Cup finalist when we signed him. Maybe not his prime, but a continued level of excellence and a world class player, and still proves to be (which is why we resigned him). Rumours were that Roosters wanted him back. What would you have said then? Remember, you took back a 33 year old Jason Smith and kept him for 3 further years in your competition full of apparently only young up and coming Australians...

Quote: Jonesy "I will let this thread die here from my part Wellsy.'"

Because you've had enough of getting found out and embarrassing yourself? 2.52392578125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Warrington h
Simba16
87
8m
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
chapylad
91
9m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
chapylad
9514
11m
Myler Ellis
mwindass
2
12m
Film game
Boss Hog
1353
21m
Prediction Competition Week 21 plus rearranged game
Sarahgrhino
11
23m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Barbed Wire
3
30m
Panthers v Knights
terry silver
18
37m
Dewsbury away
PopTart
59
60m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2040
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
36s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
scarrie
2675
45s
cats
Deadcowboys1
20
48s
Oh when the Saints
Yippee try y
123
52s
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
chapylad
91
52s
Shopping list for 2025
UllFC
3713
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2040
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38855
1m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
chapylad
112
1m
Panthers v Knights
terry silver
18
1m
Squad 2024
faxcar
633
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Myler Ellis
mwindass
2
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Barbed Wire
3
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Away
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Kicking Game
Wires71
6
TODAY
London Broncos Victorious Over Off-Colour Catalans Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
2
TODAY
Lockie Lam
Blackandwhit
14
TODAY
Leigh h pt 2
NickyKiss
18
TODAY
Weve never had it so good
MjM
2
TODAY
Leigh Away
scarrie
23
TODAY
Dual Reg & Loans The Rules Explained
faxcar
8
TODAY
Salford Win the Mid Table Battle Over The Rhinos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Saints Back To Winning Ways With Big Win Over Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull KR Top of the League With Stunning Win Over Warrington
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York at home
WT_Midlander
2
TODAY
cats
Deadcowboys1
20
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Lord Tony Sm
76
TODAY
New 4-year deal for Marshall
Jason65
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos Victorious Over..
253
Salford Win the Mid Table Batt..
337
Saints Back To Winning Ways Wi..
356
Hull KR Top of the League With..
466
Wakefield Trinity Back to Winn..
848
Catalans Dragons Defeat Hull F..
788
Salford Move Closer To Play Of..
934
Warrington Wolves Humiliate Wi..
907
Bill Arthur Rest In Peace..
714
Rhinos Comfortably Win Scrappy..
1136
Battling Tigers Beat The Drago..
1236
Hull KR Defeat Leeds In Headin..
1335
Twelve Man Warrington Stun Sai..
1325
2024 State of Origin - Game 3 ..
1533
Wakefield March On With Win Ov..
1852
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.61M 3,486 80,09214,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TOMORROW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R2
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Thu 8th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
10:50
Souths
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
20:00
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Fri 9th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
09:00
Gold Coast
v
Cronulla
11:00
Parramatta
v
Penrith
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
17:30
LeedsW
v
WiganW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R21
20:00
Wakefield
v
Sheffield
 Sat 10th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
06:00
Canberra
v
Manly
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Brisbane
10:35
St.George
v
Canterbury
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
12:00
St.HelensW
v
FeatherstoneW
       League One 2024-R19
13:00
Cornwall
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
14:00
BarrowW
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R21
15:00
Leeds
v
Wigan
       Championship 2024-R21
18:00
Doncaster
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R23
05:00
Dolphins
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Newcastle
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R11
12:00
York V
v
Hudds W
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Warrington h
Simba16
87
8m
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
chapylad
91
9m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
chapylad
9514
11m
Myler Ellis
mwindass
2
12m
Film game
Boss Hog
1353
21m
Prediction Competition Week 21 plus rearranged game
Sarahgrhino
11
23m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Barbed Wire
3
30m
Panthers v Knights
terry silver
18
37m
Dewsbury away
PopTart
59
60m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2040
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
36s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
scarrie
2675
45s
cats
Deadcowboys1
20
48s
Oh when the Saints
Yippee try y
123
52s
Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
chapylad
91
52s
Shopping list for 2025
UllFC
3713
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2040
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38855
1m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
chapylad
112
1m
Panthers v Knights
terry silver
18
1m
Squad 2024
faxcar
633
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Myler Ellis
mwindass
2
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Borough Bonus
Barbed Wire
3
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Away
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Kicking Game
Wires71
6
TODAY
London Broncos Victorious Over Off-Colour Catalans Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
2
TODAY
Lockie Lam
Blackandwhit
14
TODAY
Leigh h pt 2
NickyKiss
18
TODAY
Weve never had it so good
MjM
2
TODAY
Leigh Away
scarrie
23
TODAY
Dual Reg & Loans The Rules Explained
faxcar
8
TODAY
Salford Win the Mid Table Battle Over The Rhinos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Saints Back To Winning Ways With Big Win Over Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull KR Top of the League With Stunning Win Over Warrington
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York at home
WT_Midlander
2
TODAY
cats
Deadcowboys1
20
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Lord Tony Sm
76
TODAY
New 4-year deal for Marshall
Jason65
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos Victorious Over..
253
Salford Win the Mid Table Batt..
337
Saints Back To Winning Ways Wi..
356
Hull KR Top of the League With..
466
Wakefield Trinity Back to Winn..
848
Catalans Dragons Defeat Hull F..
788
Salford Move Closer To Play Of..
934
Warrington Wolves Humiliate Wi..
907
Bill Arthur Rest In Peace..
714
Rhinos Comfortably Win Scrappy..
1136
Battling Tigers Beat The Drago..
1236
Hull KR Defeat Leeds In Headin..
1335
Twelve Man Warrington Stun Sai..
1325
2024 State of Origin - Game 3 ..
1533
Wakefield March On With Win Ov..
1852


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!