Who?

At Leeds? In Super League? In the World?? Which do you mean??

He's nowhere near Langley, O'Loughlin, Ellis, Burgess, Tomkins or Westwood for England.

To say Ablett is nowhere near Langley or Westwood is imo a ridiculous statement. From what i've seen of him, he's playing really well, and is starting to get some of the credit he deserves.
I think he should possibly be in the england squad for the 4 nations, if he keeps playing as he is. Its a shame for him that he plays in the one position we have a decent amount of strength in depth, cant see him gettin much, if any game time for England because of this.

Go on Gareth lad! A great product of the Wakey academy, he deserves all the success he has achieved so far and more. One of the Wakefield greats.

tbh i rate ablett as a good player but i dont see what he would offer England that we don't already have. I rate Westwood at club level, he's been PHENOMINAL for us at times but compared to the worlds greats no matter how hard that guys trains, he's just not got it the same way Ablett, Langley et al haven't.
O'Loughlin imo has, no he's not the best in the world but to dismiss him as some do is ridiculous, tbh I think any NRL team would take him and the all round game he offers (can do multiple roles to international standard) is brilliant. Any team would take him but he isn't a player that would make a world XIII but is a top bracket player that Westwood, Langley cant offer. In most club teams he would be a ball playing loose but at int level he'd be a super solid tackling machine better than any in our division imo, top player.

Why do you like O'Loughlin so much? Is it the curly hair? Very over rated player.

I'm an Aussie NRL fan and believe O'Loughlin would fairly easily make it into any NRL side.

Sheens just named Ellis the best import to ever play for the club.

Ellis has been outstanding in the games I have seen in the past couple of months and the Aussie commentators have been full of praise of his performances.

At present Ellis, Burgess, Thaiday, Blair and Andrew Ryan are the stand out players every week. Burgess has it all, hes dynamic in defence and attack and should develop into the top 2nd rower in rugby league.

still think burgess would be a better 13 than a 2nd rower....playing 13 gives him license to pop up anywhere rather than being stuck to the left or right channel if he's was a 2nd rower...



as for sam thaiday...he looks good...cos he runs at centres & wingers...or sideways...

I suggest you view some stats then.