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You are going down Rashad!!:



Quote: Mark_W "Why is it Benefit of the doubt to the attacking team? If no one can see if the ball was grounded surely it should benefit of doubt to the defending team i.e. held up'"


This is the whole point than the wannabe armchair refs cant comprehend. Its benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. No one knows for sure other than the players involved if the ball was grounded or not. The armchair refs on here will claim it wasnt grounded but the ball disapeared and its impossible to say with any certainty. Therefore the correct call was made by the letter of the law, benefit of the doubt to the attaqcking team

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Can I just point out that the VR is not looking for a reason to allow a try? By the rules under he operates, the starting assumption is that a try has been scored [iunless he can see a clear reason to disallow it[/i.

Just thought I'd throw that in to your fascinating debate.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "he had clear opportunity to ground the ball if he could make it pass through someones leg or whilst he was lying on his side could somehow simultaneously put the ball down whilst it was clearly clamped to his chest and he was moving away from the ground.'"


Clearly clamped to his chest? Even though you can't see it, it is clearly clamped to his chest? This is the sort of stuff the referee cannot make up in order to disallow a try. Much as you may like him to. Watch the video, it is clear Ganson made the right decision.

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you can see it from one angle hit the leg, then from another angle that the ball is clamped to his chest above the ground, The falling salford player at that angle (gibson) then obscures the ball. Then from the original angle (behind ratchford) you can see that Moore still has the ball on his chest.

Im not sure at what point you think he could have grounded it? He was laying on top of Gibson laid on his side with the ball in his other arm being clamped to his chest by Ratchford

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Im not sure at what point you think he could have grounded it? He was laying on top of Gibson laid on his side with the ball in his other arm being clamped to his chest by Ratchford'"


When the left side of his body hits the ground. The same side where he's holding the ball. The view from behind his back shows the ball over the defenders leg and then Moore slides forwards and his body obscures the view of the ball as he hits the ground. From the opposite angle you can see, at the point Moore's body hits the ground, Gibson's legs are level with Moore's hips whilst the ball is presumably in the gap between their bodies. After this the ball gets pulled up.

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Quote: SBR "When the left side of his body hits the ground. The same side where he's holding the ball. The view from behind his back shows the ball over the defenders leg and then Moore slides forwards and his body obscures the view of the ball as he hits the ground. From the opposite angle you can see, at the point Moore's body hits the ground, Gibson's legs are level with Moore's hips whilst the ball is presumably in the gap between their bodies. After this the ball gets pulled up.'"


Moore is always on his leg, he goes forward over it so Gibsons knee is under Moore's lower midriff/hip. Gibsons arm is under Moore, as you can see from the angle behind Ratchford. Ball is clearly inbetween them. Now unless in the 4 or 5 frames between where we can see Gibson underneath him from one angle and the ball being seen in his right hand from the angle behind
Ratchford he has managed to not only put it down, avoiding Gibsons arm which is roughly level with where we would expect the ball to be, but pass it from the hand he is laid on to a an arm held by Ratchford which is being pulled away from him he hasnt scored a try. Personally dont think its very likely at all.

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