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To answer your question..no, no they cant.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "The Challenge Cup isnt meant to decide the best team in the country. It isnt and never was formatted to do so and it never attempted to do so. so as a judgement of the best team in the country it is worthless.

And Saints, in an uneven fixture list won the LLS by 1 point in each of those seasons, besides the GF decides the best team, we know this at the start of each and every season, being top after 27 rounds makes you champions as much as being top after 10 rounds does.

winning the 09 GF meant more by becoming the first 3 in a row champions than it did to win the LLS as well. frankly i couldnt care less about coming first or second in the league. Its a build up to the play-offs.'"

Isn't there an uneven fixture list every year? It's a bit of a cop-out. We could always bring up the Millennium Magic incident if we wanted to get an extra 2 points back!

Like I said previously, the champion side only need to come good at the end of the year. But is it better coming good at the end of the year three times in a row, or coming good all year and winning everything? Which one is the bigger achievement?

Quote: SmokeyTA "plus, when we change to a conference system the LLS will be as worthwhile as the lazenby cup'"

We're changing to conferences?
And if we did, there wouldn't be a LLS anyway, because there wouldn't be a league leader. There might be a conference leader, and they may get a shield, but that obviously wouldn't be as important as the GF because it wouldn't feature all the best teams.

Just on a side note, if Catalans won the league from 8th three times in a row, would people still consider them the best team in the country? Or that they just came good at the end?

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Quote: rhinoms "During the last 5 yrs we've played in 4GF'S winning 3 on the bounce and losing 1 to a team that broke the cap and i'd say that's more recent than the whole SL era and i am not playing down saints success either.'"


You're completely playing down Saints success there.

In the same time period, Saints have finished top of the league 4 seasons in a row, won the Challenge Cup 3 seasons in a row, knocked out in the semis in the other 2 seasons, won the GF once, and reached the GF three further times.

Maybe they're just burnt out at the end of the season after playing so many games more than everyone else every year?

The best side that year (arguably) is the GF winning team. But when you compare season on season achievements of teams, you need to look at more than just being the champion side.

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Maybe wire will do something this season.

However, I think we need to be more cautious about Wigan.

Everyone is talking up there new coach, but in reality, his experience is very limited.

I can't help thinking Wigan have a Newcastle United syndrome, thinking that the Massiah will come (has come). No one has yet to suggest that perhaps Nobby in fact got the best out of the side, that semi finals in the playoffs is about where that squad is.

Sure, there are some very good performers (with sam having the potential to be great), but many who are ok, who might produce the odd great performance but who really are just average players.

I really like Wigan and Wiganers and always enjoy matches there, often supporting Wigan when it is a 'neutral' match for me, but I can't help feeling that they'll do worse this season than last, and that the hype we've seen about increased fitness and 'comfort zones' is just that.

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Riddell and Feka both look a hell of a lot fitter to me.

I think Wigan will stay under the radar a bit this year, people will say that a change of coaching staff alone won't help us, but I think we could get some silverware.

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heck he doesnt look like piggy any more

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