I aren't ridiculing anyone mate, just pointing out that a club that has existed for 100 years or so has had plenty of opportunity to develop the team and fanbase over that period. A side who has existed for 5 years cannot be expected to be judged by the same standards. The only team I can think of that has a good support base regardless of success is possibly Wigan. That's not to say all teams don't have [isome[/i very dedicated supporters, just not enough. So I don't think any teams fans are in a position to knock any others crowds or attendances.

The cap has been reduced for all clubs, whether irresponsible or not. All this does is make the gap between SL and the rest even greater. Whether it will stop clubs going bust, we’ll have to wait and see. There seems to be one or two clubs who are paying lip-service to the salary cap anyway.


On the whole, probably more. It didn’t happen all the time though, as I’ve already pointed out, so I’m not sure what your point is?


Some did well and some didn’t. Again, it wasn’t a forgone conclusion that the relegated club would walk the league. Anyone can pick the odd game where a club gets hammered, particularly when you look at games between weak strugglers and the best clubs- hence Celtic Crusaders 0 v Leeds Rhinos 68. There have been several worse results that that in SL over the years.


I would suggest that the licence system loses clubs money at the turnstiles. There are too many meaningless games at the end of the season, and relegation keeps the interest going and the fans turning up. Going by the losses nearly every club are posting this season, licencing can hardly be regarded as a glowing financial success for the game.


Only time will tell. There’s nothing else I can say about that.


Which was clearly totally ignored by the RFL when handing out licences anyway.

im not really interested in a P&R debate. its so 2 years ago.

All this anger at a rugby league club saving a football team, yet when Harlequins saved London Broncos wasn't that seen as good for rugby league? Swings and roundabouts. Having links with another club can have benefits.

Not really , it was seen as the last throw of the dice though , moving every 3/4 years doesn't seem to have done the london club any great good

some people dont like expansion clubs being saved

they only like it when clubs thatve been around for 130 years and are about to go broke are saved

just ignore the hypocrisy, they arent representative of modern RL fans.

its a dieing breed.

still around though which is the key.

They certainly are , I used to watch them train back in the mid 80 's , at lowton high school in Leigh

well if CC have to move every 5 years to survive ill live with it.

While I agree with the sentiment , ' survival ' isn't what SL is about

That's what the lower leagues would be happy with , but the ' premier ' competition requires more IMO

Was that with Roy Lester Starburg?

What happened to Roy?