Well it is definitely happening. Definitely.

Starbug, a lot of your posts even in jest don't make any sense at all. How could someone (incorrectly) suggesting that Crusaders may not move to Wrexham ever be a flat capper? The Wrexham move is a negative in terms of expansion of the game, so suggesting that it wouldn't work in no way makes anyone a flat capper. Do you think that expansionists just agree with everything that happens, and that anyone who does differently is labelled a flat capper? Because if you think that is the case, then you really are utterly clueless. This would also explain your bizarre and contradictory views on many subjects.

I've heard that from two different well placed sources today too.

Yep, now you're getting it!

That's how annoying and silly the term is.

It wont work for the simple fact that they wont have a fan base in Wrexham for a good while yet. Surely it would be more beneficial for them to keep their base in south wales and build on what they have achieved so far in Bridgend.

It might not work, in reality it probably won't, but that is what is going to happen.

Be pretty embarrasing for the game if there was only Leeds Rhinos fans there on the opening day wouldnt it!!!

I don't really see any alternative.....there will [ireally[/i be only some Leeds fans there. Where are the Wrexham RL fans going to appear from?

Sure, there might be a few curious locals on freebies but beyond that? Only bright spot in this is the supposed appearance of a South Wales RL team. They can then follow the South Wales team from 1996 into oblivion. After that we can stop pretending about everything.

What Wrexham rl fans? As for just Leeds that's not true there are at least 2 crusaders fans up from south Wales but seeing as it's a Friday and it's 3 hrs in the car and 4 on the train most won't be able to get there cos of work hurray for sky sports

I don't think they will, they will have local players and a fanbase now. As long as they don't make a mad dash for promotion at the cost of stability they will survive in the long term. They may be unlikely to make SL, at least for the immediate future, but a Welsh side in the Championship or Championship 1 is a good thing in its own right, especially one with Welsh players and the game isn't just SL or nothing

The 1996 team didn't fail as such, they had a hissy fit and quit the game when they weren't promoted 2 divisions straight from a midtable finish in Division 2 (they were offered promotion to Division 1 though)

Wrexham makes a lot of sense. But once again its not by design its by luck. The RFLs franchising system is pathetic. The NRL are so tough and strict when it comes to handing out franchises. Infrastructure, long term finances etc. are everything. The RFL just hand a cheque over and hope for the best.

I seriously hope it works in Wrexham, we really dont need more Lancs/Merseyside/Yorks clubs in SL. But if not Toulouse should come in not Widnes.

Widnes can replace Salford or Wakey in a couple of years.