I know a lot about RL history and I know the excuses but the overriding reason is the lack of welcome for anyone new. At the first sight of problems it has been 'pull up the drawbridge and blame the newcomers'.

And then complain about lack of recognition.

Wow, perhaps you can explain which clubs have had this done to them by the RFL, the only organisation in pro RL that could "pull up the drawbridge".

The overriding reason for the failure of expansion is the lack of money

The thing is we can all argue hard and long about how this system or that system has failed to expand the game , the point now is given what we currently have , how do we keep it

What should happen with regard the Crusaders now , if the reports in the sun are to be believed then the sport doesn't have the money to finance expansion , so do we have no choice but to take whatever deal is offered , even if that means they move to Wrexham ?

The problem I have with expansion (such as it is) is the cack handed, amateur and stupid, utterly stupid, way in which it is managed.

The costs of such inept management are not solely borne by the imploded expansion club, but also by the viable clubs ommitted to accomodate them, the sport as a whole and future expansion clubs.

If it's going to be done, at least let's have it done right.

I am almost certain someone said this in 1896. Except they were probably talking about such new fangled places as Brighouse. We haven't done alot better since, so 'appen they were right. Keep RL local!

So what explains: Bowls, Table Tennis, Squash, Badminton, Netball, for instance, being played everywhere? did they have loads of money? I bet they have generated far far less than RL but are pretty widely spread out.

Perhaps they were magicians? Or all millionaires?

Or, how about this one for a crazy, off the wall idea, let's give the expansion club the best possible chance to succeed! I know it's wacky but maybe we could give it a go?

By the way, which clubs have been excluded by the RFL?

Do they have full time 25 man squads? and running costs of a stadium? Marketing and admin departments? Ground staff? full time coaching teams? Finance departments?

How much does a table tennis bat cost?

Not even sure what you are saying mate?

You agreeing or disagreeing here?

With what?