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Quote: JonM "probably irrelevant
I tend to agree. Despite what some poster's think, I think the current regime at the RFL is very strategic in its thinking. The decision to bring in Catalans, keep Harlequins, and bring in the Crusaders, shows that they are working to a steady beat of expansion. A Paris team with some serious, and I stress serious, financial backing, is something that they'd be crazy not to consider. PSG were never seriously interested in investing the money to succeed. Stade Francaise might be. If they are, we should bite their hands off. It would immediately bring a better tv contract in France, and thus widen the financial base of the sport.

I completely understand why people in Widnes/Leigh/Halifax/Featherstone/Barrow etc, hate this kind of discussion. But money will talk in this situation. None of the obvious north of England sides who would like to expand offer much potential revenue. They offer history and continuity, but at the moment, that doesn't cut it.

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Quote: bowes "The impartial view is that of judging all clubs by the same standards not making excuses for one set of clubs on an arbitrary notion'"


no it isnt, an impartial view is one based on objective criteria,

and that would be criteria that wouldnt be biased in favour of English heartland clubs or objective criteria that allowed for the intrinsic bias for English heartland clubs,

if you want to pretend all clubs are in the same position, face the same issues, have the same opportunities and challenges go ahead, but it does make you look like an idiot

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i would hope they wouldnt be wasting any money,

and i certainly expect them not give a few thousand if not hundreds of thousands of pounds to a bank for no real reason,

depends what you mean by self-sustaining

if, the backing, skill, comittment and guarantees are there, yes,

the game is never going to spread throughout the world at amateur level, then to semi-pro, then to pro, if we are demanding they do we are demanding the game doesnt grow,'"


You sad get

Self sustaining as in Breaking even , you know , like a REAL ' business , you pay money to your employee's , they provide a product , your customers pay for that product and your business doesn't lose money

Stop acting thick , you have no need to

For once in your sad boring life , answer a simple bloody question

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Quote: Starbug "You sad get

Self sustaining as in Breaking even , you know , like a REAL ' business , you pay money to your employee's , they provide a product , your customers pay for that product and your business doesn't lose money

Stop acting thick , you have no need to

For once in your sad boring life , answer a simple bloody question'"
no, i dont expect them to have to break even i their first year, or even second year,

i would fully expect that the first couple of years at least would be loss making

i dont expect any club promoted to be breaking even or making a profit within its first couple of years

had you meant the club were in a position where that loss comes from internal rather than external sources, then yes, i woudl expect the club to budget to make a loss, and already had this covered with comfortable wiggle room

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Quote: SmokeyTA "no, i dont expect them to have to break even i their first year, or even second year,

i would fully expect that the first couple of years at least would be loss making

i dont expect any club promoted to be breaking even or making a profit within its first couple of years

had you meant the club were in a position where that loss comes from internal rather than external sources, then yes, i woudl expect the club to budget to make a loss, and already had this covered with comfortable wiggle room'"


Excellent , have you got that from the RFL 's Franchise section icon_lol.gif

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You can't really expect a sport club to be breaking even in their first year (some in 10 years) of a higher division. It's not important that they break even straight away. What is important is whether they have plans in place to eventually break even, when that will be, and how much investment it would need up until that point.

What I would also find important is how attractive that business would be to be taken over should the current owner decide enough is enough (i.e. what is rumoured to be happening at Crusaders). If they're losing too much and don't look like they'll ever see a return, no-one will take it, and hence the plug is gone. At least Harlequins have attracted backers.

If there is a high risk at a club, maybe a guarantee of some sort would be a good idea? We can't take a risk too big with nothing to come out of it if something goes wrong. If Crusaders go under it would be awful, and the RFL would be foolish to take a similar risk again.

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