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| Quote Serge A. Storms="Serge A. Storms"Oldham has a vibrant amateur rugby scene and a population of 60k? - but the rugby club which has been in existance for 100 years and no SL club within 15 miles struggles to attract 2k to a game - perhaps Hamilton should spend less time prancing around with the chain round his neck and more time at his own club.'"
3 things
1. You forget Salford is only 10 miles away.
2. They struggle to attact 1000 people to home games, let alone 2000. Some of the amateur clubs have had bigger crowds on a Saturday than the Pro Club have got on the Sunday
3. Your spot on about what you say about El Presidente. Some accountant he is, glad he doesn't do my books. |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I would expect very very little profit is made from those 'events' and whilst they arent sold out, and whilst they arent top of the nations concious any profit made should be ploughed back into those events, they are the highest profile we have, and they are our best chance of attracting new fans, as far as i am aware lower league clubs get about £20k each from the RFL, with the possibility of another £100k to spend on certain things, with another fund to which they can apply for funding to improve facilities now this does all come from the RFL central fund, not directly from Sky, however, considering the RFL havent hosted a tri nation for 4 years and its highly unlikely the european cup makes money, and we know, MILLIONS of pounds are put in every year from Sky, its safe to assume that that is where
the money comes from'"
Thanks for that. |
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| Quote pyeman="pyeman"I'm asking that championship clubs get there fair share of tv monies, when we are talking about about something like 7% of the money thats very little compared to how many tune into see championship games on sky. When the next sky deal is negotiated i would like the extra money to be split 80% sl, 15% championship, 5% championship one and actually see all british rl teams (at a proffesional level) benefit from a product that they are all helping to sell.
Some on here seem dead set against doing anything to help the lower leagues for whatever reason, me i want the sport do everything it can to strengthen all clubs, its a sad endictmnet of our sport that such views are in the minority.'"
the Lower leagues get more than their fair share of the revenue, if they got their fair share, they would get nothing,
Why on earth, would you think SL chairmen would be prepared to cut their own income from tv revenue by 20% for nothing in return? |
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| Quote pyeman="pyeman"I'm not against it recieving the overwhelming majority of tv monies, in fact i am saying it should, but that championship level clubs should also recieve a percentage of that money that is free to spend however they wish, i think 10% of the next sky deal to be spread out between all championship clubs would be fair.'"
it was 15% a minute a go,
If the Lower leagues are worth 10% of the sky money, why, every time we have tried to sell the tv rights to the lower leagues, has no one been willing to pay that for them?
Sky, paying £0, but paying the expenses of actually screening the games is the best offer a broadcaster is currently willing to make, that is how much the broadcast deal for lower league RL is worth |
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One way of cutting their costs would be to use the academy players from the SL as the backbone of their squads and fill it out with more experienced players. They should forget reserve/junior grade - leave that to the better amateur clubs. Forget about development officers - leave that to the SL clubs and concentrate on improving their revenues streams.
Then and only then should the SL clubs look to some form of integrated fund sharing
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"the Lower leagues get more than their fair share of the revenue, if they got their fair share, they would get nothing,
Why on earth, would you think SL chairmen would be prepared to cut their own income from tv revenue by 20% for nothing in return?'"
Based on what? |
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| Quote a.n Other="a.n Other"Based on what?'" based on the amount Sky pay for their TV rights |
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| Quote tb:2k945udrQuote tb="tb":2k945udr
ps: I also understand, iirc, that the total pot available wouldn't cover every club getting the maximum £100k.
But it's not true that championship clubs get no money from the TV deal.
quote'" :2k945udr'" only they know how much of that money is what would be termed ' SKY ' money
For clubs to access this money they need to employ certain ' key ' staff in very defined positions
A full time CEO , but many clubs prefer to have F/T lower grade staff and a director or employee of the owners company overseeing things part time , this distinction while maybe not perfect in the eyes of the RFL and some posters on here quite often suits the clubs at Championship level
A full time marketing executive with finely defined objectives set by the RFL
They are specifically employed to bring in corporate and business sponsors over and above what the club already has , targets are set and if the person does not meet those targets the money to pay them can be withdrawn by the RFL
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| Quote Roary="Roary"It maybe "a damn fine publication" but are they actually making any money out of it?
That's the point what I am trying to make.'"
Yes from the localised advertising we could sell to be in it , as against the national advertising that the RFL were selling to be in their programme
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| Quote Serge A. Storms="Serge A. Storms"One way of cutting their costs would be to use the academy players from the SL as the backbone of their squads and fill it out with more experienced players. They should forget reserve/junior grade - leave that to the better amateur clubs. Forget about development officers - leave that to the SL clubs and concentrate on improving their revenues streams.
Then and only then should the SL clubs look to some form of integrated fund sharing'"
So basically you advocate the Australian model of ' feeder ' clubs ? |
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| Quote tb="tb"No. It's not even what happened when London Broncos' (not the club) parent company liquidated, and the club played out the rest of the season as London Broncos. There was no money given to the club. By anyone. And certainly not by the RFL.Still … however many times that is pointed out, they myth lives on: it's almost as if some fans want it to have been the case.'"
So the London Bronco's didn't get any SKY money that year ? |
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