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So where is all the chest-beating now that it turns out that the original figures were wrong? From today's Sydney Morning Herald:

"The NRL's belief strong grand-final ratings last weekend would help their next TV deal was punctured slightly with the revelation yesterday the AFL's decider had in fact beaten its rugby league counterpart in national ratings, not the reverse as had been claimed originally. Recalibrated figures lifted the AFL's ratings by almost 400,000 nationally."

Personally I don't understand why anyone would watch Aussie Rules but there it is. Clearly the NRL is not doing a good enough job selling its superior product.

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Quote: J. Willard Gibbs "I just had a quick look, and it seems that Nielsen (for example) only study around 4k households, so it's along the lines of 16k people out of over 20 million - it's maybe a little more than your 0.05%, but not by much.

That's only going to be accurate where you actually have a properly representative sample - and picking an appropriate 4k households out of the entirety of Australia seems fraught with danger in that respect.

They're not invalid, but a hell of a lot hinges on their ability to make those 4k representative and what postprocessing they apply to the figures.'"


There isn't 20 million households (4k of 20mill is 0.02%!) hence why it is closer to 0.05%. Even if they could somehow manage to get an entire cross representation of 20million in 4K (whioch you can't) it still doesn't take into account A) How many people are actually sat in front of the TV (again they simply avg which on such a small sample is unreliable) B) How many people are watching the game in the pub or club and C) How many people are recording it and watching it later.

As a methodology and sample group size it is extremely poor and would be laughed at if such a piece of research was put forward in a peer reviewed journal.

But hey ho we beat AFL!

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Quote: JB Down Under "There isn't 20 million households (4k of 20mill is 0.02%!) hence why it is closer to 0.05%.'"


If there's an average of 4 people per household (ie. 16k people covered by the 4k recorders, bearing in mind multiple TVs etc), then it can come out as a little over 0.05%, but not by much.

Quote: JB Down Under "As a methodology and sample group size it is extremely poor and would be laughed at if such a piece of research was put forward in a peer reviewed journal.'"


The methodology isn't disastrous, but it's not great. The problem is, like you say, the small sample size - but even then, if they could actually get a representative sample (difficult) then the figures are not necessarily useless, they're just an approximation. Probably with rather large error bars!

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Quote: JB Down Under "
But hey ho we beat AFL!'"


Or did you? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: JB Down Under "
But hey ho we beat AFL!'"


Or did you? icon_wink.gif

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 5782913052

only playing.


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Quote: dally messenger "its good you have so much faith in rU
I dont realy like union League is my concern. I just understand the game & my part of the world.

SL has only touched the tip of the iecberg in terms of its potential
True, but there is no easy way to push the game here as the people who pull the strings are not interested, dont care or have no need of our game.

once it gets to the standard of the NRL it will leave union well behind it
We could be ten times better than the NRL but it would not get us any further, I will explainas i said before, newcastle and sale have seen massive crowd falls despite lots of media behind them. union is a dead horse
& as I have pointed out Union gets its money from the International game they need the pro clubs to turn out the players so they keep them going they also have enogh cash to keep Australia going if it fails. The only way union would be in trouble is if the Internationals failed to attract viewers, attendances & sponsorship, remembering that the vast majority of those people dont attend club rugby.

if RL had the same media how big would it be?'"

A lot bigger than it is now but dont assume that because it is given coverage it would thrive, both codes of rugby are alien to most British people a lot who wont watch either & what seems strange to us could not tell the two games apart if they did. League will grow but it will be very slow & may even have setbacks along the way. I am sad to say that at my age I will not live long enough to see it (but I will try)

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Quote: The Glorious League Freak "The AFL's biggest problem is the fact they have blanket coverage in Australia and they are still number 2.

The NRL can expand into Perth, Adelaide and the like. Where can the afl expand too?'"


they seem to have this ridiculus notion that the are getting bigger in south africa. they put a lot of emphasis in the development section on their website to their.

Otherwise, RL has great potential but it will only fulfill it if the bodies that run the game get changed fast, then RL can look to a very bright future.

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