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Quote: Gazemous "I still believe that if Quins found a way to make the massive Australian contingent of London aware of RL in London (and somehow made it quicker/easier to get to Twickers from C.London) they'd see their attendances rise massively.'"


Changing your brand from one instantly recognizable to NRL loving Aussies (i.e. London Broncos) to one which is renowned as the quintessential middle/upper class, rah rah, city brand probably wasn't the best move in that regard, though it was clearly done to save the club.

Have a look at some of the Broncos attendances in the past, in particular when they played in the WCC. They've had sporadic 8k, 9k, 10k attendances (against Wigan too) but nothing consistent.

Quins have only managed 8k+ twice, once in their first game as Quins v Saints (intrigue) and once against Wigan (first game of 2008, half the crowd got in for free)

Seriously, how many Aussies in London can really take the Harlequins brand seriously.....foot.....shot.....

On a general level - some great marketing & PR minds have failed to make it work in London, Branson included.

I'd say a 4,263 attendance at the Galpharm for a play off fixture in the town where the sport began, in a county with 100+ times the number of participants is more embarassing than any of the Quins attendances personally....

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Quote: Wire_Yed "North London [Barnet] to Twickenham 18.9 miles
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5 minute walk to catch
184 to Barnet tube station with a potential to wait 12 minutes for the bus
2 minutes walk to station.
potential to wait 6 minutes for train.
Barnet to Waterloo 41 minutes
Waterloo to Twickenham 30 minutes
10 minute walk to stadium

1h 46mins round trip 3h 32mins

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yeah real conveniant
On the other hand, most Londoners that aren't super rich live in those sort of places anyway and take in to account that it is the best part of an hour from the suburbs to central London. Having said that, most Londoners I used to work with had never been further than Watford and crossing the river to South London was a trek of explorational proportions.

The other problem is that the main London paper (the Standard) and the local news channels treat Quins like a local non-league football team and leave the coverage to the local local paper, rather than treat the team as representative of the whole of London.

Personally, what really gets people noticing games and looking at the matches that draw the biggest attendances anywhere in the League are derbies. Rather than one club, what London needs is a second half decent SL club .... The cut down Olympic Stadium would be a perfect venue. London Olympic / Skolars could tap in to the North / East market and Quins could be released on the South / Western end of the capital. Hey presto, instant derby game.

It is also worth considering the crowds that the Union attracts in the captial, given that hardly any 'London' teams actually play there. There seems to be little complaint about travel to watch 'London' RU teams in those well-known London suburbs of Watford, Wycome and Reading.

The RFL are slowly applying the same ethos to France with two teams there and it is a shame that there isn't a second team in Wales somewhere (maybe over Swansea way) to get the derbies going there.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Its 20 mins on a train from Waterloo. How easy do you want it to get?'"


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Quote: Starbug "True but what would they have put in their SL bid as catchment area ?

They cant have it both ways , not a criticism just an observation as criticism is not allowed

Maybe if they stayed put for more than a few years it would help as well'"


Of course they'll put it in their catchment area. I live in N London & my nearest SL club is Quins so I dont see why I shouldnt be included in their catchment area. What the RFL have to do when analysing what that means is recognise that in a place like Castleford or St Helens or Hull there will be a different proportion of the catchment area that are likely to go through the club's turnstiles than in a city like London.

Sadly I fear that the task of marketing SL in London might be too big in the long run given all the hurdles they've got to overcome like the long journeys (mine is about 90 minutes), other competing events, limited media exposure in the catchment area, & the (for quite a lot of this season at least) not very great atmosphere when you do make the effort to get there.

That being said, I do think Quins could put a lot more effort into the marketing of the club. I got a cheapo ticket to one of their games this season in exchange for giving them my name & address. But they've not made any use of that. I've not received a single bit of marketing through my letter box to try to get me to go again. Mr Blanchard (?) said when he joined the club the priority was to get bums on seats. I agree, but it would be good to see some evidence that there's an effort going into getting that.

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1h30 from my place too (Kilburn), hardly a quick trip. After the great Tube (provided it does work which is not granted) you have to walk 15-20min to get there. Great connection to the Tube indeed.

Clearly, the Stoop is not easy to access for most Londoners. Given the average hourly wage in London and the fact that every body is always running, an overall trip of 3h for a rugby match will only motivate the core fans...

As it has been said, don't look for RL coverage in daily local newspapers, it is quasi inexistant.

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