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Quote: Wellsy13 "So really, momentum appears to have absolutely nothing to do it. Stevo should rename it to a more accurate "transferable velocity" rule!'"


Absolutely, momentum would only really apply in a perfect elastic reaction - whereby the momentum of the player is transferred to the ball. Considering the player has about 500 kgm/s, that would mean a player would need to throw the ball at about mach 3 for momentum to have any application.

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I just pointed out that your refutation was only valid in the case of no air resistance. Your references to the force required was purely i the context of getting the ball up to that velocity as you passed it, not what happened
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Not true, I actually changed my wording so that that would not be the case - "mass would only effect the required force to get it to that speed and in that direction".

Just because I didn't make clear what was applying the force doesn't change the fact I didn't exclude air resistance.

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Can you work out the path of the ball then (other forces acting on it like air resistance and gravity) using trigonometry then?

i.e. If a static player passes a ball backwards at a 45degree angle at 10m/s, then using trigonometry it's velocity in a directly backwards direction is 7m/s.

If then a second player makes the exact same pass but is running forwards at 10m/s, then it would travel forward at 3m/s? (10m/s forwards - 7m/s backwards = 3m/s forwards).

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Can you work out the path of the ball then (other forces acting on it like air resistance and gravity) using trigonometry then'"


Using Newtonian physics you can, yes.

To your example, then yes, the ball would travel forward at approximately 3m/s. At such slow speeds air resistance wouldn't have too much of an effect anyway.

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