OK, but the games at Wakey and Wigan were knockout. Meanwhile, we'll see if the knock out element brings any extra to the games at Headingley and KR in a fortnight's time.

Doubt it, they'll all have retreated back under their stones to mutter about forward passes, ball reefing and bent referees - its called a persecution complex in professional circles.

I think you are being a bit unfair on the Lancs. Out of the 30,000 who attended play-off games at the weekend at least 7 or 8,000 must have been from the wrong side of the hill.

Hull Kr get nothing from this game. Not like a Rovers fan to confuse fact with fantasy....

Our crowd v Cas was higher than our last eliminator against them in 2002 but our first sub 10,000 crowd for a Super League match in four years.

I was surprised on Friday when I started this thread but been even more surprised since.

I think at the end of the day the matchday prices are too expensive because it seems to me this weekend the die hards have turned out but no one else.