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Quote: Maximus Decimus "

...Full-time professionalism has changed the game. The way the game is played has completely changed and resulted in this impression that it is less skilful. It is played at a completely different pace now and requires different skills. The Great Britain of today would totally dominate the Great Britain of (20) years ago and that's not just down to full-time professionalism. They wouldn't be able to cope with the speed or fitness levels and would be ineffective against must better organised defences...
'"

Comparing the 2009 GB team with, say, the 1970 GB team, can never be anything more than an entertaining argument, but out of fairness, imagine

Dutton
Smith, Hynes, Myler, Atkinson
Shoebottom, Hepworth
Hartley, Fisher, Watson
Thompson, Laughton
Reilly

with the same full time training, conditioning and backup that the 2009 team have. I was brought up around the likes of these players: from a very early age they played many hours a week, and sometimes many hours a day, of touch and pass rugby, where the focus was to work a gap in the defence with footwork, passing, timing and deception skills. They were hard lads from a hard past, playing rugby at a time when almost every lad in their town played, and competition for advancement was enormous. They had to be good to stand out. The best of them were filtered through challenging junior and open age amateur leagues to reach club level. They could all pass accurately, catch anything within reach, and tackle their opposite number by themselves, if needed - if they couldn't, they simply did not get very far. The 1970 GB team would not have been as big as the 2009 team, but would, I suggest, match or surpass them in most other areas.
Whether the spectacle on show was inferior or not, is a different issue, mostly a matter of personal taste.
(By the way, I have no idea of the 13 from 2009 who would have to face the GB team that lost to Australia in the 1970 World Cup final: anyone feel like suggesting a line up?)

Apologies for drifting away from the main point of the thread.

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Some great posts on here in response to BK. I have lost the will to debate with him so thanks to those of you who have the energy and patience. Anyone who watches pre-professional era RL cannot fail to notice how much better the game is now. All the arguments about great players have been discussed and discussed well.

I'm surprised that none of the anti-competition cap haven't pointed to the fact that we haven't beaten the Australians since Super League or the salary cap like we were obviously doing before profesionalism, ignoring the fact that the Australians went professional as well.

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Quote: McClennan "Some great posts on here in response to BK. I have lost the will to debate with him so thanks to those of you who have the energy and patience. Anyone who watches pre-professional era RL cannot fail to notice how much better the game is now. All the arguments about great players have been discussed and discussed well.

I'm surprised that none of the anti-competition cap haven't pointed to the fact that we haven't beaten the Australians since Super League or the salary cap like we were obviously doing before profesionalism, ignoring the fact that the Australians went professional as well.'"


My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.

RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies

Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Code13 "My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.

RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies

Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not
I hear what you're saying. Super League with no other semi-professional leagues below i.e. mergers. Excellent idea. I'm all for it icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Code13 "My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.

RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies

Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not
There's far more to it than that.

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