You are right.

He is very average.

If that bloke is supposed to be one of the top 3 second rowers in the game then the world has gone nuts.

Well why post that sh*t if you know how ridiculous it is?

I mean, if you honestly believe that, good for you. But the same idiots that said Fielden was any good put these sides together.

Civoniceva, Price, Blair, Lima, Poore, Myles.....I could go on and on with props that are better and the list of second rowers would be even longer!

would tiger ellis be good enough on this years nrl games.for state of origin

You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Owned™ so badly.

The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.


I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.

Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.

At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!




These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.



Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.


Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.

How were they 9th Dipsh*t?
If you think Ireland or Fiji were better then you're freakin stupid.
Oh wait, you're an inbred Panthers fan, nevermind eh

the tigers upset canberra yesterday.

to the 2 pretend aussie fans on here saying ellis hasnt gone well, have you heard of people like peter sterling, laurie daley and warren smith.

all have praised ellis contribution.

had he been playing for one of the sides i mentioned he would be in line for a Dally M award.

please guys, stop making fools of yourselves.

for those of us that do watch the nrl rather than pretend, you are dragging us down with you

Ellis has gone ok.
I think he is getting a wrap from some commentators because they didn't expect much and have been surprised by his consistency.
His Stats have him similar to most second rowers in the comp no better or worse.
26 tackles a game
8 hit ups
0.72 offloads
2.5 missed tackles

In comparison Nathan Hindmarsh.
39 tackles a game
9 hit ups
2.2 offloads
1.89 missed tackles

Just randomly looking at other players like Watmough, Stewart, Parker Learoyd Lahrs all have figures of equal value some have less tackles and more metres made, it depends on the role they play in the team, the style of player and how much game time they get.

Ellis plays plenty of minutes each games so should have good averages.

Good player who has a go and is well liked by the fans.
He should improve more in his second season and offer more in attack.

Put the stats away....they can lie and draw you into making bad statements.

Good assessment

Typo corrected