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| Quote Wire_Yed_79="Wire_Yed_79"the thing is what is there in Hull ?
a rubbish football club with a tangoman manager, a big bridge and loads of boats.
voted the worse place to live in England, high unemployment, high crime, the majority of housing stock being Terraced.
levels of disability and mental illness are some of the country's' highest.
Frankly im not surprised you get big away crowds i'd want to get away too.
Home crowds, well you'd need the escapism.'" How very dare you talk about my home town like that. Hang your head with shame. 
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| Quote Newton-Le-willows-Warrior="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"wigans idea of advertising the leeds game as the big one seems to be reaping the rewards- a 20k plus crowd is expected with currently over 15,000 tickets been sold for the game. tickets are priced at 10 quid and 5 quid for both sets of fans. and if you are a wigan season ticket holder and you buy a ticket you get yourself a free big 1 t shirt.'" They are certainly pushing it by every means possible, we received 5 leaflets from wigan the other day trying to get us to buy (ok the went in the bin but assuming the are targeting everyone on their database they are bound to get extras that way!) and it seems to be advertised on the radio regularly too.
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| Quote jannerboyuk="jannerboyuk":313rlkrei thought the orthodoxy was that televising a game harms attendances? :313rlkrejust out of curiousity how do you know that 'most' of the tickets were giveaways:313rlkre? im always curious as to people's sources for such bold statements.'" paid to the home teams when they are on TV and those clubs are then obliged to give out 200 family tickets it would seem fair to suggest that a large number of fans would have been admitted with those
It is true that many others may well have paid to watch their little darlings perform and as I said , well done
The point being the question asked was about ' Marketing teams '
Who has them and who doesn't ?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Given that the Co-oP sponsorship of the league consists of only money [ £4,000 paid to the home teams when they are on TV and those clubs are then obliged to give out 200 family tickets it would seem fair to suggest that a large number of fans would have been admitted with those
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About 200 families worth I would guess if they all took them up.
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| Quote Wadski="Wadski"About 200 families worth I would guess if they all took them up.'"
So anything between 200 and 800 at the gate
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| Quote Code13="Code13"So they sold more tickets to people who wouldnt normally go?
Terrible, terrible idea.'"
Out of these ones 'who wouldn't normally go' most used to go the matches but they stopped going either through the club being relegated or cos a lot of fans had had enough when we had stephen vaughn as owner and they needed to realise that the club had changed and quite a few of these now go the matches.
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| Yeah, what a rubbish idea, getting fans to come back
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Given that the Co-oP sponsorship of the league consists of only money [ £4,000 paid to the home teams when they are on TV and those clubs are then obliged to give out 200 family tickets it would seem fair to suggest that a large number of fans would have been admitted with those
It is true that many others may well have paid to watch their little darlings perform and as I said , well done
The point being the question asked was about ' Marketing teams '
Who has them and who doesn't ?'"
so it was or wasnt most?
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| Quote jannerboyuk="jannerboyuk":3qyb0xktso it was or wasnt most?'" , and if they dont should they and should that be part of a licence application ?
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| yes and no. In ideal world yes but are cubs going to spend 160k+ on a marketing team? Probably not. Every SL club should have to have an indicative budget imo that shows how much they will spend on marketing, jnr development, 1st team salary, coaching salaries etc. i would be happy to see the RFL set a % expectation on this.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"yes and no. In ideal world yes but are cubs going to spend 160k+ on a marketing team? Probably not. Every SL club should have to have an indicative budget imo that shows how much they will spend on marketing, jnr development, 1st team salary, coaching salaries etc. i would be happy to see the RFL set a % expectation on this.'"
This is the post that got me onto the subject
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Quote JB Down UnderStarbug wrote: What it needs is the RFL to start to actively help the clubs [ all 35 of them to increase crowds rather than constantly trying to get corporate/sugar daddy/sponsorship investement
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Surely each team has their own marketing team, and community workers who have this in their remit?
What next, is it going to be the RFL's job to sort out the pre-match entertainment?
The clubs between them have a hell of a lot more resources than the RFL, so why should this fall under the RFL?
This season we have seen initiatives like free Challenge Cup tickets, half priced Magic Weekend tickets for ST holders, over the past few years we have seen the emergence of home and away kids Season Tickets.
Do the FA or the RFU get involved with increasing their individual club's crowds?
The RFL do not necessarily have the local expertise to draw in the crowds in my local town (Warrington) for example. This is 100% the responsibility of the individual clubs. Of course if there is anything the RFL can support or help, then they should (see the above examples). '"
Given the poor relatively speaking attendances at many of our clubs I would have thought that either the RFL demand the clubs do more and have people specificaly at clubs doing this job or they do more themselves
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