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| Quote Viva La Vikings!!="Viva La Vikings!!"Not a bad NL coach. Nice person. Got us to 3 finals in 3 years. winning one of them. dont think he had what it takes to take us to superleague in a few years time.
All the best Ste Mac.'"
had the best squad in nl over the last 3 seasons, and alls he will be remember for is making good players into nobodies, killing the game of rugby league in widnes.
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| James Webster to take over?
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That was in early August and was an extension of his earlier contract. Therefore it was awarded during last season, as opposed to being awarded an extra year at the end of the last one. Since awarding him that contract things have gone from bad to worse. I assume the club had given him the chance to build a new squad during a proper closed season, in order to prove himself. He didn't have this last season, so there was always a ready made excuse for some awful performances. Given the performances during the friendlies were, to put it lightly, garbage and in our first competitive game, against lower league opposition, we were out played, I'd say it was the right decision. There would be little point delaying sacking him any longer. Given the previous three years, I'd say it was not before time. If the club had delayed any longer, it would make it harder for whoever is to take over.
I think there maybe a little more to it too. There are rumours he'd lost the dressing room and even sent assistant coach Stanky out to bollock the players during the Oldham game. The fact is, the way the team has performed under him for the last 3 years have finally come home to roost. It could not be allowed to carry on, or we'd just start to lose any support we have left. The style of rugby was really that bad. You,as a Leigh fan, should know that.
So it wasn't 'knee jerk', it's been coming for a while. They just made the mistake of giving him an excellent pre-season in Portugal and a big wedge of money, when they really should've released him at the end of last season and given the job to someone more capable. They've clearly seen their mistake and put it right as soon as possible.
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That was in early August and was an extension of his earlier contract. Therefore it was awarded during last season, as opposed to being awarded an extra year at the end of the last one. Since awarding him that contract things have gone from bad to worse. I assume the club had given him the chance to build a new squad during a proper closed season, in order to prove himself. He didn't have this last season, so there was always a ready made excuse for some awful performances. Given the performances during the friendlies were, to put it lightly, garbage and in our first competitive game, against lower league opposition, we were out played, I'd say it was the right decision. There would be little point delaying sacking him any longer. Given the previous three years, I'd say it was not before time. If the club had delayed any longer, it would make it harder for whoever is to take over.
I think there maybe a little more to it too. There are rumours he'd lost the dressing room and even sent assistant coach Stanky out to bollock the players during the Oldham game. The fact is, the way the team has performed under him for the last 3 years have finally come home to roost. It could not be allowed to carry on, or we'd just start to lose any support we have left. The style of rugby was really that bad. You,as a Leigh fan, should know that.
So it wasn't 'knee jerk', it's been coming for a while. They just made the mistake of giving him an excellent pre-season in Portugal and a big wedge of money, when they really should've released him at the end of last season and given the job to someone more capable. They've clearly seen their mistake and put it right as soon as possible.
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"That was in early August and was an extension of his earlier contract. Therefore it was awarded during last season, as opposed to being awarded an extra year at the end of the last one. Since awarding him that contract things have gone from bad to worse. I assume the club had given him the chance to build a new squad during a proper closed season, in order to prove himself. He didn't have this last season, so there was always a ready made excuse for some awful performances. Given the performances during the friendlies were, to put it lightly, garbage and in our first competitive game, against lower league opposition, we were out played, I'd say it was the right decision. There would be little point delaying sacking him any longer. Given the previous three years, I'd say it was not before time. If the club had delayed any longer, it would make it harder for whoever is to take over.
I think there maybe a little more to it too. There are rumours he'd lost the dressing room and even sent assistant coach Stanky out to bollock the players during the Oldham game. The fact is, the way the team has performed under him for the last 3 years have finally come home to roost. It could not be allowed to carry on, or we'd just start to lose any support we have left. The style of rugby was really that bad. You,as a Leigh fan, should know that.
So it wasn't 'knee jerk', it's been coming for a while. They just made the mistake of giving him an excellent pre-season in Portugal and a big wedge of money, when they really should've released him at the end of last season and given the job to someone more capable. They've clearly seen their mistake and put it right as soon as possible.'"
Couldn't agree more.
He wasn't very popular with fans so much so that I was shocked that his contract was extended but as has been said he had done an OK job with a team made from scratch.
The Oldham game exposed some serious problems. We looked second best to a part time team from the division below and you couldn't just say they were playing badly. They didn't look big enough or fast enough to cope. This isn't acceptable when your playing full time wages and with the resources that we have in comparison.
Personally I think theres either somebody lined up or Steve O Connor realised that we would start to haemorrhage support. Season ticket sales are down about 10% and this could be to do with franchising and/or the credit crunch but it could also be down to Steve McCormick.
It was a good move before it got too late.
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| Nice guy but a loser when it really mattered. As illustrated by four successive GF defeats with 'Haven and Widnes.
Amazed he lasted so long after under-achieving with an outstanding squad of players at Widnes, frankly. After all Salford didn't keep him very long.
So, the Northern Rail Cup gave him his finest hour (2007 win) and worst moment in charge of Widnes...who says its a 'nothing' trophy ?
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| Quote -VIKINGMAN-="-VIKINGMAN-"WTF you mentalist, pre season results havent been the best and we have been awful in certain games. Isnt it better to get rid now rather than half way through a season?'"
Saint Helens twice, which we won one of them. Haven which we won with a miss shape team and salford where we played most of the game with a very weak, young inexperienced team.
In a final on the day any one can win it and i believe that with the experience of the last 3 years Ste can get us to the final and win it.
Personally, i am gutted with todays news because Ste knows this division inside and out and thats what it will be about in the next 3 years. To keep him on and sack him after one game is ridiculous.
Good luck Ste, you have my respect where ever you end up.
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| Quote Maximus Decimus="Maximus Decimus"Couldn't agree more.
He wasn't very popular with fans so much so that I was shocked that his contract was extended but as has been said he had done an OK job with a team made from scratch.
The Oldham game exposed some serious problems. We looked second best to a part time team from the division below and you couldn't just say they were playing badly. They didn't look big enough or fast enough to cope. This isn't acceptable when your playing full time wages and with the resources that we have in comparison.
Personally I think theres either somebody lined up or Steve O Connor realised that we would start to haemorrhage support. Season ticket sales are down about 10% and this could be to do with franchising and/or the credit crunch but it could also be down to Steve McCormick.
I disagree, i think its the best the half backs have played and with 13 men on the firld we would won. We shown glimpses of class against Oldham imo and theres no reason we wouldnt have shown it against any other championship team.
It was a good move before it got too late.'"
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| Quote miscreant="miscreant"Nice guy but a loser when it really mattered. As illustrated by four successive GF defeats with 'Haven and Widnes.
Amazed he lasted so long after under-achieving with an outstanding squad of players at Widnes, frankly. After all Salford didn't keep him very long.
So, the Northern Rail Cup gave him his finest hour (2007 win) and worst moment in charge of Widnes...who says its a 'nothing' trophy ?'"
Me. And it is. Starts the season off on the complete wrong footing. I've been saying it ever since we were first in it.
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| Brian Noble to go next when they lose to Cas on Friday night.
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| Give over, there aren't enough trophies to win.
Oh for the days of 1973-74 season and the County Cups, Floodlit Trophy, John Player, Captain Morgan, play-offs, Challenge Cup - and a Kangaroo tour, ashes series, with a Lions tour down under at the end of it all.
That's what I call variety in a season. Players could earn county caps and there was so much more on offer....why a Keith Senior type would never have been off e-bay had it existed then.
Now, all everyone wants to do is shorten the season, lessen the number of games because the players are tired. There's more to life than league gameszzzzz
I would hate us to have a season like in Oz where its CLOSED for half the year. Its not our culture to have six months off, nor will it ever be.
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| viking man wrote
[uWTF you mentalist,[/u pre season results havent been the best and we have been awful in certain games. Isnt it better to get rid now rather than half way through a season?
If i was a mentalist [ui would not[/u ask the question why sack now and not at the end of last season or before this seasons preperations started as i as a mentalist would know the answer
men⋅tal⋅ist /ˈmɛntlɪst/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [men-tl-ist Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who believes in or advocates mentalism.
2. a person who believes that the mind and its functions are a legitimate area of psychological research.
3[u. a mind reader, psychic, or fortuneteller. [/u
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