Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"what a pathetic argument, very, is a completely subjective deliberately none specific word, or could either of you tell me the official level at which very can be applied?
Starbug, i never said there was a major difference between NL1 and NL2 clubs, you need to learn to read what is actually there and not what your desperate to be there
to try and make an argument that there is no fundemental difference between the 2nd and 3rd tiers is idiotic, even for your standards, its down at the likes of barnacle bill or bustinyaballs level, it would take an almost subhuman intellect to think there is no fundemental difference between the two different leagues,
the differences in size, popularity, exposure of NL1 compared to NL2 is huge, not the size of the difference between NL1 and SL, but still pretty large, this will be integral to the financing, funding, and chance of success of the Toulouse project, it would be a negative towards the potential of success for Toulouse for them to have to play in that league for a year,
and you would see that it is the sensible option to put Toulouse in NL1 and not allow them to drop to NL2 if you werent desperate to prove everything is bent so you can perpetuate your conspiracy and dont have to accept Leigh werent good enough
according to you Toulouse will be like a cancer in NL1, dragging support and the credibility of the league downwards because they only aim to use that league to get out of it into a higher league, yet in NL2 Toulouse would be doing exactly the same, you seem positive about putting them in NL2, a league full of clubs with a bit less support, a bit less money and a bit less able to deal with impact you believe Toulouse will have, therefore the clubs in that league will feel the hit much much more,
so by any logical conclusion you would agree Toulouse should be in NL1 rather than NL2, if not for any benefit for Toulouse, but as an altruistic fraternal gesture to your NL2 brothers, or could the more likely be true, and as is common with the people who generally agree with you, and you dont really give a flying f@ck about NL2, you dont give a flying f@ck about the game, and dont give a flying f@ck about the game outside of Leigh, and you decisions and opinions arent formed by judging whats in the best interests of the game, but the best interests of Leigh, and when we read your opinions it is always in the knowledge that if you were honest with yourself, you would choose leigh over the game everytime, and would even be in favour of doing something that wasnt in the games best interests (and would in fact be a negative for the game) as long as it benefitted Leigh Centaurions'"
So you substitute [imajor[/i for [ivery[/i and you think that makes a difference to what you posted
You posted that NL1 clubs are very different to NL 2 clubs
They are not ,
Almost all are part time , thier relative attendances apart from 1 or 2 are very similar
Yes the ' bigger ' clubs in NL1 are better on a playing front than the clubs at the bottom of NL 2 and yet sometimes those teams do give the top teams a difficult time
I would hazard a guess that every NL club be they NL 1 or NL 2 are propped up financially by thier owners [ Not a single NL club is capable of breaking even on what most would term earned income
Yes Toulouse will be better off in NL1 than NL 2 , that is obvious
In the same way that a NL club would most likely be better off in SL if they had as much if not more money than the other SL clubs
Not exactly rocket science
Toulouse will not be a ' cancer ' in NL 1 , I have never stated that , 3 clubs will possibly suffer from thier inclusion as some of the fans of those 3 clubs will see thier club possibly miss out on a franchise in 2012
The other 7 clubs will be unaffected [ until one of those clubs finish above Toulouse but is still relegated
But none of these 10 clubs will gain anything from having Toulouse in NL 1
As far as NL 2 goes , well there will be no benifit to them
You state that I care little if nothing about any club outside the one I support , your perogative
Strange then that I communicate with fans of other clubs looking at ways that I can help them raise monies for thier clubs by doing various things we have done at Leigh
I have suggested various things like ' Home ' clubs paying coach travel to bring more away fans to matches and how the NL clubs both 1 and 2 should be looking at using one kit supplier to improve buying power [ something that the ' lesser ' NL 2 clubs would most benifit from , but I only share and discuss with fans of other NL clubs
I have accepted that the club I support will never play in SL again and can see that the competition we do play in needs to be strong or eventually the club I support will suffer
You say I dont care about the game as a whole , your perogative , I have little interest in the game above NL level because it doesn't need any of my help but below it I have much interest and have done much to help the game at amatuer level
And finally the pedantic part
Leigh Centaurions
Maybe they will play the 1 st GF on Venus