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| Am I the only one who sees nothing in the guy apart from a good athlete?
I don't mean to be dismissive (The kid is young and could well develop) but to me, he looks out of his depth.
His try against Saints was, IMO, more to do with shoddy defence. Gardner, Gidley and Wellens all could and should have tackled him. Yes, he showed great pace, but that was it.
In defence, he looked very very poor. Twice he just ignored Gardner in the last ten minutes, and I had to laugh when Saints put a bomb up in the first half and he just basketball style knocked it into touch, making no attempt to catch the ball.
I am not writing him off, and hate to criticise young players, but this guy seems to be getting so much love on here, and I just can't see why. It's like Danny McGuire all over again.
Give him some time, and allow him to develop in defence and he could become a good player, he has the athleticsm to do so, but at the moment, I am deeply sceptical.
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Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game.
I know who i would rather have 
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| Quote Mark™="Mark™"He has only took the p*ss out of two of the best fullbacks in the world in his first 2 games. '" Jordan Tansey is a very good prospect but he isn't the best full back in the world yet.
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| Quote Junior12="Junior12"Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game.
I know who i would rather have
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You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential.
My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above him.
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| Quote SophistiChav="SophistiChav"You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential.
My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above him.'"
I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than Penny.
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| Quote Junior12="Junior12"I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than Penny.'"
No he isn't.
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| Quote SophistiChav="SophistiChav"No he isn't.'"
ok then why isnt he?
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Strewth mate get off the lad`s back - sounds like you not happy with a wingman unless he`s got the combined skills of Wally Lewis , Martin Offiah with a little bit of Lockyer thrown in - all I know is that he`s played 2 full games so far in his career and playing against the two top sides in the land he`s managed three tries , that will do for me ...
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It's the truth, he is not as good as Ian Hardman!
Ok so he can score a few trys, it's no good when you let the same amount in aswell.
I think has has great potentional, but at the moment IMO all he has is speed.
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| Quote Junior12="Junior12"It's the truth, he is not as good as Ian Hardman!
Ok so he can score a few trys, it's no good when you let the same amount in aswell.
I think has has great potentional, but at the moment IMO all he has is speed.'"
So you are comparing two wingers with 1 having played 2 SL games while the other must have notched up about 30 or so over four seasons?
Hmmmm.
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