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| Quote Him="Him"Hmmm is this a new tackle technique though. I saw a few similar late last season and now a few in the first couple of games.
The one in the Salford v Saints game looked, admittedly on 1 viewing, like a deliberate technique of using the body on the back of the legs in order to bring him down. Now before people get worked up I'm not suggesting the technique is deliberately designed to injure. It's probably to try and pull the player back rather than the tackler sliding down his legs because that allows a quick play the ball.
Maybe I'm wrong but it's the technique looks similar to others I've seen recently.'"
It looks similar to the old "ninja" tackle that Rob Parker used a lot, just they've moved the point of contact up a bit from the calf to the knee.
On its own in a one on one tackle it's probably fine 99% of the time but throw in the ball carrier being held up by defenders before the "low" contact and heavy pitches...that's when it becomes unsafe.
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| 4 match ban for Walne or Boudebza's ban is rescinded. If not, everyone in the game should be questioning the competence of the RFL's disciplinary committee.
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| I understand entirely what Roy Haggerty means and agree with most of what he says, I'm just naturally suspicious of both players and coaches. We know that they spend huge amounts of time and effort on tackle technique that is designed to slow the play the ball. And we know that they've developed such techniques that are designed to slow the play the ball BY hurting the player. Whether it's chicken wings, cannonballs, as Gronk! says the old "ninja" tackle or I can remember a period not that long ago where the calves of players would be stood or knelt on and last season we had a few incidents of stamping/standing on players hands.
So whilst I'm always willing to accept that, as Roy says, it's a fast, chaotic game and things can happen. I also think we should be vigilant for such trained techniques and eliminate them whenever we see them.
Accidents I'll accept. Trained techniques I won't.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Looks like we'll have a few more 4 game bans handed out after this weeks matches. Tackle on Percival no different to Boudebza's and again not malicious. Consistancy has to be applied however.'"
I completely disagree. It will spiral out of control if that happens.
I think everyone needs to say that the Boudebza ban was wrong and we should move on and not ask for similar bans for similar tackles. The sport would become a joke if that happened.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Except that he missed the cup game the following week.'"
 ok then, that fortnight  was a bad one that, remember seeing it at the time and wincing.
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| First Utility Touch and Tag Rugby League... Doesn't have the same ring to it.
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"There's 2 cameras and the option to zoom either camera in with simple editing if they wanted to do that too. Just like the "super zoom" Sky use.
The stitch up stuff/they don't like our club! stuff is just the usual spouted by every teams fans when someone cops a ban, doesn't matter which team it is someone always cries foul...HKR are not being painted in a good light with the coordinated effort by Hudgell & Campese to demean the governing body and bring the game into disrepute. They should try being the bigger men and move on.
Also, technically they aren't saying he broke any rules he was just negligent and was the cause of the injury albeit unintentionally:r
Which I think everyone should be able to agree with?'"
That'd be demeaning the same governing body you expected to 'cop out'?
Hudgell has made specific claims about pretty serious breaches of process. If they're untrue then Hull KR will look bad. If they're true then the governing body is generating its own disrepute.
I doubt you'll build much consensus around that statement saying JB acted against the spirit of the game, unless new footage emerges.
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| Quote Him="Him"Accidents I'll accept. Trained techniques I won't.'"
Nail on the head; and I share your suspicion of coaches and players. There is a mountain of evidence that tackle techniques are constantly evolving to 'win' the ruck, and the latest incarnation is the first man in going high and holding the attacker up, so that others can join one by one and chop him to pieces, turning him over in the process so he ends up on his back, with his head towards his own sticks - they then peel off one by one, which takes the longest possible time. That's considered a defensive 'win' from a coaching perspective, but I'm sure it's not what the rules intended.
I'm not at all in favour of removing collision or risk from the game - but I am in favour of removing the ability of coaches to play fast and loose with the rules to the detriment of player welfare and the spectacle.
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"There's 2 cameras and the option to zoom either camera in with simple editing if they wanted to do that too. Just like the "super zoom" Sky use.
The stitch up stuff/they don't like our club! stuff is just the usual spouted by every teams fans when someone cops a ban, doesn't matter which team it is someone always cries foul...HKR are not being painted in a good light with the coordinated effort by Hudgell & Campese to demean the governing body and bring the game into disrepute. They should try being the bigger men and move on.
Also, technically they aren't saying he broke any rules he was just negligent and was the cause of the injury albeit unintentionally:
Which I think everyone should be able to agree with?'"
In that case we should have a dozen players up every week. What I think will happen is that the RFL will quietly move on without doing this again, leaving us without any no 9's for a month.
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| Quick question re 'leg whip'.
Does anyone else hear Family Guy's Stewie's voice when they read it?
Leg hwhip. It's a leg hwhip, Brian.
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