I'm about the most impartial fan you can get when it comes to my own team so sorry chief but you're spouting cr*p!

Re:Henderson- So it's fine to abuse the ref as long as he is man enough to take it?

Re: swinging arms etc- We're one of the lesser offenders in SL for it.

The knees incident- Sorry, not having it. He was falling down. Hock knew exactly what he was doing when he got his bans... IMO Walne certainly didn't.

The uproar on here is frankly laughable but I'm not surprised. Since Koukash came to Salford we seem to be public enemy number one in a lot of people's eyes and every little incident seems to be magnified 10 fold. Fortunately, there are some sane people who haven't jumped on the bandwagon who can still hold a reasoned debate without letting any bitterness creep in.

Oh and as for Fraysinnous' latest rant I'd hope he's fined for bringing the game into disrepute. He seems to have forgotten the spineless assault 2 seasons ago by one of his players on Theo Fages which brought about a paltry 3 match ban.

Some major double standards me thinks.

I've thought this myself.

He has talent but he's backing it up with some Premiership bad attitude now, which is a shame. Saying that, it's hardly surprising when he's got the likes of Elima, Dureau, and Henderson around him. Players who are constantly top drawer for gobbing-off.

Without meaning to drag this thread on. We bumped into Bentham and the officials in a bar after the game.

He explained to us that a if a player is still in a standing position and moves off the mark after held is called then the player is asked to go back and the play the ball, as its difficult for that player to know when they are actually held if they don’t hear the call.

In Escare’s case he explained that because the players ball carrying arm had hit the floor and there was a player on him, the tackle was indeed complete and the player should have known it was complete and therefore cannot get back up and run away.

If Escare was tackled by Lee in the same way near the try line and decided to reach over and score it quite rightly would have been a penalty for a double movement and he wouldn’t have just been asked to the play the ball again. Escare was held and decided to get up and run, therefore the penalty was correct. Cummings made the wrong call on sky.

So what people are saying on here is that Harrison should have been given the chance to play the ball again after his disallowed try? And so should any player who ever gets penalised for a double movement? H didn't know he was tackled and reached over line so it should have been play the to Salford should it? Give over both decisions were correct. Its amazing how many rugby league fans/pundits actually have no idea about the rules, embarrassing

Well it's kinda nice to think you can approach a ref in a bar after the match and have a conversation like that. Fair play to Bentham. And yes, I fully agree, he was surely dead right in this case.

This.

That.

But not the other.