well im guessing he has, and as i say, i have no idea if Simmons will turn out to be a good appointment though. I was just pointing out the mindset we seem to have where his appointment is accepted without a murmur, yet McDermott's is first of the four men of the apocalypse.

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
Both appointments look like they have pros and cons. (Most) Saints fans will naturally be optimistic, saved the odd one (you know who you are), whilst speccies from other teams will look for the weaknesses to boost their optimism about their own teams chances. Same with the McDermott appointment and the reaction from the Leeds fans compared to everyone else.

So now James Lowes is confirmed. Brilliant stuff. No trophies at Leeds for a year or two anyone?

Agreed

nor for Saints

or Bulls

or either of the Hull clubs

or Quins

or Crusaders

or Reds

or Giants, Tigers and Wildcats.

The others to fight it out for the trophies

Let's just hope that statement doesn't come back to bite you on the

.

Regards,

Warrington Wolves - Challenge Cup Winners 2009/2010

Do you think that Lowes was a key part of bringing those trophies to Wire then? Good one.

That certainly would explain why Quins, Wakefield, Cas and Salford looked so full of energy and fight last year and won so many games. Oh, hang on.....

When did missing the playoffs for 3 years count as a decent job?

I think Leeds will do worse in 2011 than they did in 2010, not just because of McDermott though. They may get better after 2011 but that's a while away.

Anyway, as a token of appreciation of supplying them with a British head coach, we in London would appreciate Ben Jones-Bishop coming back here for another year or five

He was part of the regime and regardless of what he brings he will have a similar role to the one he had at Wire. It's McDermott who we will judge.