where an earth did u get these stats from.?

what are they for wales.?

You're correct there - and that is something Welsh RU and Rugby League have always had in common: both very much working class games played by hard men (part of the reason the old boy fraternity were so dead set against broken time payments imo), and a mutual dislike of the snotty-nosed old boy public school setup of English RU.

Which is also why I'm always surprised RL has never flourished in Wales, and has so much potential now (moreso with the Scorpions if you ask me). Tough men with a passion for the oval ball, and also explains why so many Welsh RU lads have done well at RL. It's a good match.

We all know that The Welsh RU is working class and that Gloucester is the same.

But you know as well as i do that the rest of the game is dominated as a Middle class sport and players in the rest of the British isles. that is one of the reasons behind welsh antipathy towards their english cousins and the reason welsh RU players adapted / converted to RL in the late 70s and 80s where as English RU players did not.

Its a well known fact that the WRU were on their way to the historic meeting in Huddersfield in 1895 but were prevented from attending by poor weather (snow).

Had they attended they would have switched to League but in the days after the meeting a desrate ERU cut a deal with the Welsh to keep them in Union.

It's interesting to think how League would have faired had the Welsh switched back in 1895, with a larger geographical spread and the possibility of the Irish following their Welsh Celtic cousins, League could have had a much bigger base from which to progress. At the same time the English Union would have been prevented from launching the 4Ns and would have been denied the Welsh contingent in the Lions teams.

Snow on the 29th August?

Bang on mate,they've always been toffee nosed b@sterds the lot of them,god i hate union with a passion.

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