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| Quote tb="tb"Just a pity you couldn't sign him within the salary cap.'"
It wasn't that signing that took us over the salary cap.
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| Quote Maximus Decimus="Maximus Decimus"I recently watched the 1988 3rd Ashes test where we won for the first time in ages and without my rose tinted spectacles it wasn't really that impressive.'"
I did the same thing (ESPN Classic?) and, to take it further, the standard was terrible. Both offensively and defensively. Neither team playing that day would even hold down a place in SL, let alone compete internationally.
Wally Lewis was the only player who really looked like he would have done a decent job were he playing now. Having said that, the wingers, particularly Offiah and Gill, would probably be just about as good as what we've got now. The rest were well below in pretty much every area you could name. The skillsets were terrible, with almost every pass thrown from standing and most being either inaccurate or slow. Ball retention was also pretty poor and the defences were a shambles. Add in the lack of fitness and general lack of athleticism, and it didn't make for a very high standard game (by modern standards, at least).
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"I did the same thing (ESPN Classic?) and, to take it further, the standard was terrible. Both offensively and defensively. Neither team playing that day would even hold down a place in SL, let alone compete internationally.
Wally Lewis was the only player who really looked like he would have done a decent job were he playing now. Having said that, the wingers, particularly Offiah and Gill, would probably be just about as good as what we've got now. The rest were well below in pretty much every area you could name. The skillsets were terrible, with almost every pass thrown from standing and most being either inaccurate or slow. Ball retention was also pretty poor and the defences were a shambles. Add in the lack of fitness and general lack of athleticism, and it didn't make for a very high standard game (by modern standards, at least).'"
Because the players weren't full time professionals they weren't built as big and were often faster, especially the wingers.
In today's game Offiah and Gill would have had to bulk up considerably or they wouldn't stand a chance.
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| Quote Maximus Decimus="Maximus Decimus"Because the players weren't full time professionals they weren't built as big and were often faster, especially the wingers. I think this often gives the impression that the game was better and that they were more skilful.
In today's game Offiah and Gill would have had to bulk up considerably or they wouldn't stand a chance. Look at a player like Kevin Penny, lightening quick, good hands but he struggles at this level because he's not bulky enough. '"
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| They were both built much bigger than Penny though and, whilst they would've needed to bulk up more, it would be much easier for them to adapt to today's game than it would've been for just about everyone else.
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| Some great posts on here in response to BK. I have lost the will to debate with him so thanks to those of you who have the energy and patience. Anyone who watches pre-professional era RL cannot fail to notice how much better the game is now. All the arguments about great players have been discussed and discussed well.
I'm surprised that none of the anti-competition cap haven't pointed to the fact that we haven't beaten the Australians since Super League or the salary cap like we were obviously doing before profesionalism, ignoring the fact that the Australians went professional as well.
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| Quote McClennan="McClennan"Some great posts on here in response to BK. I have lost the will to debate with him so thanks to those of you who have the energy and patience. Anyone who watches pre-professional era RL cannot fail to notice how much better the game is now. All the arguments about great players have been discussed and discussed well.
I'm surprised that none of the anti-competition cap haven't pointed to the fact that we haven't beaten the Australians since Super League or the salary cap like we were obviously doing before profesionalism, ignoring the fact that the Australians went professional as well.'"
My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.
RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies
Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not 
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| Quote Code13="Code13"My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.
RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies
Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not
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I hear what you're saying. Super League with no other semi-professional leagues below i.e. mergers. Excellent idea. I'm all for it 
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| Quote Code13="Code13"My main argument is we havent beaten the Aussies since the year we went to two divisions.
RL had one big league - we regularly beat the Aussies
Split the leagues, we stop beating them...coincidence? I think not
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There's far more to it than that.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Yeah...right
PMSL!
3 seasons running, playing for a mid table side with the smallest pack in the league he played 81 Superleague games and scored 64 tries.
1st year at Wigan he played 25 games and scored 15 tries and I believe was your second top try scorer that year, so no problem handling pressure at all..........
the following year he was made the scapegoat for Wigans pi55 poor form.
The only club where Dennis Moran is not applauded and held in high regard is Wigan and that's because he was an easy target.'"
On the money mate. Moran was outstanding for you guys (Broncos...)
I actually have a mate, southerner who knows nothing about rugby of any sort. He made some serious cash spread-betting on Moran;s try scoring at the Broncos, just by following the stats.
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