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| In simple terms....
Quote: tezza_93 "I don't really understand what Bulls fans have against Valley Parade. '"
The area it's in is the main one. It's known as a rough area and people don't like taking their families and parking their cars there.
Quote: tezza_93 "And even more confusing is the countless number of suggestions on the T&A site that the Bulls should move out of Bradford
People are sick and tired of the council.
In all honesty, I'm not really interested by the whole thing anymore. I've not expected to get anything since we moved back to Odsal in 2003 and nothing has happened since to change my mind. I'll only become interested again when I actually see work being done or a move is confirmed.
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| Hmm.
Makes you wonder if sources close to Valley Parade, who may have a vested interested in the OSV not going ahead, are at work here somewhere?
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| Quote: Wigan Bull "www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/4643/STATEMENT%20REGARDING%20ODSAL%20SPORTING%20VILLAGE
Still hope?'"
We seem to be going around in circles. A couple of years ago we had an affordable and achievable plan, I saw some of the blueprints as did a few others on here. Those plans came after a lot of pi55ing about with schemes that were too ambitious and unaffordable. Unfortunately that plan was then shelved for a more ambitious one again. Now that's been dropped and we're looking at more achievable plans again, and the council is about to spend over a million on another feasibility study. That's just taking into account the period 2006-2010.
It's a shambles and I fear while we're relying on the council we'll either end up with something that's the bare minimum cost and ambition (not including a stadium or any re-development) or nothing at all and continued indecision and waste. I would dearly love to be proved wrong but I'll believe it can happen when I'm sat in it!
Quote: Wigan Bull "Hmm.
Makes you wonder if sources close to Valley Parade, who may have a vested interested in the OSV not going ahead, are at work here somewhere?'"
One has to wonder. I think there are also others with a vested interest in building something large in order to service their egos rather than provide something achievable. Once you have both these parties at work the end result is nothing at all.
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| Quote: aj cougar "That's the key issue, the site is prohibitive, and I think it's the reason for these ridiculous costs.
Put it this way, you would get more change out of £15 million building on a flat site like Cougar Park than you would at Odsal.'"
Flat? Cougar Park?
They done away with the slope there then now have they?
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| Quote: aj cougar "Put it this way, you would get more change out of £15 million building on a flat site like Cougar Park than you would at Odsal.'"
Ground sharing with the Cougars at a suitable non flooding site up the Aire Valley just off the bypass would suit me fine.
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| Had a go at mergeing theads but made a bugger of it. Can't work out all the new buttons. Please can someone else have a go?
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| Quote: Bullseye "Ground sharing with the Cougars at a suitable non flooding site up the Aire Valley just off the bypass would suit me fine.'"
And me!
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| So succinctly put!! Only a Yorkshire man could put it so well!
Not living 'up North' any more, I really miss the turn of phrase
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| Shame there's no longer a proper Keighley Council to sort it!
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| We in Keghley wish we were not part of or anything to do with BRADFORD COUNCIL.
Not for one minute would any genuine cougar fan want to share a ground or owt else with the bulls.
No doubt your former chairman Caisley will ride in to rescue you
On a serious note whether it be valley parade or another venue you have to have ground in Bradford otherwise you may as well merge with Crusaders
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| Odsal is like the rest of Bradford,in a hole.
Call that a stadium. I'ts not good enough for rugby. Move down to Valley Parade. Now thats what you call a stadium. Bring back the stockcars to Odsal.
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| OK here goes ......
Alternatives to be considered if funding from other partners and a developer led scheme cannot be achieved Option A
Increase the covered, seated capacity of the stadium to 10,000
including new conferencing and hospitality spaces (leaving
10,000 uncovered standing capacity), add new community
sports facilities within the existing stadium site and leave some
space for operator funded hotel or sports retail development
Cost £35.1m
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Option B
Focus the project on the provision of new community sports
facilities within the existing RDSC site, and postpone
replacement or improvement of stadium facilities until a later
phase of development
Cost £22.5m
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Option C
Focus the project on the provision of new community sports
facilities within the former Northern View Hospital site, and
postpone replacement or improvement of stadium facilities until
a later phase of development.
Cost £29.4m
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Option D
Add new stadium roofs to make all existing standing spectator
positions undercover (with installation of seating at a later date),
provide new community sports facilities within the former
Northern View Hospital site and preserve the option for both
operator funded hotel and sports retail development
Cost£39.6m
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Option E
Add new stadium roofs to make all existing standing spectator
positions undercover (with installation of seating at a later date),
provide new community sports facilities within the existing
stadium site and leave space for some operator funded sports
retail development
Cost £33.8m
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Guaranteed funding so far £19.3m
Possible other funding considered £2m
Prudential borrowing costs met through reductions in overheads for
combined more efficient facilities (£200k pa) - £2.8m
Prudential borrowing costs met through rental income from partners
occupying space within the sports village (£50k pa) - £0.7m
Receipt for disposal of RDSC site once community sports facilities are transferred to the sports village - £6.5m
Prudential borrowing funded from corporate sponsorship and naming
rights for stadium or stadium facilities - £?m
Ground rent (or purchase of a long leasehold interest) for commercial development of a hotel and, or sports related retail - £?m
The Council have also considered borrowing money up to tune of £3.5m a year in interest payments to facilitate the compliant scheme !!
Not as dead as some people would believe ......
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| BM - good work. Thank you.
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| Can't we just tell "Yorkshire" Forward that any car parking spaces could be used as part of a park and ride service into Leeds?
At the sight of the magic word their proportion of the funding would no doubt quadruple, and they'd mysteriously manage to bring in other investment to help plug the gap.
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| Quote: girl power "We in Keghley wish we were not part of or anything to do with BRADFORD COUNCIL.
Not for one minute would any genuine cougar fan want to share a ground or owt else with the bulls.
No doubt your former chairman Caisley will ride in to rescue you
Given you appear to have approximately zero credibility on your own board (see the excellent AJ and GW owned you again, on a thread on this very subject) you can hardly expect anyone on HERE to take you seriously.
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